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Appeon-PBD Support

7 posts in Appeon (partner product) Last posting was on 2012-11-08 07:40:17.0Z
aydinakin2000 Posted on 2006-10-12 07:07:18.0Z
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Hi,
I am a project manager in a software development company. In my
project, there are 12 powerbuilder developers. In our company, we are
using PowerBuilder 7 and 8 to develop our products.

We want to migrate our applications to Web based applications from
client-server architecture by using Appeon 5.0 and PB 10 or 10.5.

There are some critical code which the company management does not let
to share with developers. In powerbuilder 7, a pbd file was created
which include the critical code for this purpose and every developer
can use this pbd with application's 160 pbl. (The pbd file contains the
ancestors of datawindows, windows,etc which is used in our all
applications )

Our developers can create exe and dll files by just adding this pbd to
their library list. So everything was great.

But now;
- How can we use a pbd file with Appeon 2.8, 3.,0, 3.1 or 5.0? Is it
possible? Any idea? (We failed to add pbd and dll version of this pbd)

- Is there another way to hide some ancestor objects source from
developers? (by using Appeon and PB)

Our developers need to deploy applications everytime like creating exe
and dll files.

Your reply is valuable.

Regards
Aydin


Appeon Posted on 2006-10-18 10:31:11.0Z
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Hi, Aydin

Appeon cannot support PBD files. Appeon Developer needs to
export some PB objects information from PBL files.

Currently, there are no way to hide ancestor objects using
Appeon.

Howerver, to advoid this issue, we suggest you develop the
PB application using PBD and then deploy the PB application
using PBL.

Regards,
ZXP
Appeon Support Department


aydinakin2000 Posted on 2006-10-19 13:42:43.0Z
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Article PK: 13071

Hi,
I have 5 questions. (Too much? Sorry..)
Please write your comments for any question(s) you like.

1.If we develop the PB application using PBD and then deploy the PB
application
using PBL, developers cannot deploy? (Can them? No way?)

2.There is some dll support on appeon. If we create a dll from the pbl
which contain the ancestor objects, can developers deploy the
application?
(Or if the one which have all pbl's deploy the application, the
developers which doesnt have the pbd's pbl code, can deploy the only
changes?)

3.Can developer deploy the application by modifying, copying, changing
some files on application server without using appeon standart
deployment procedure?
(To achive to the aim which is hiding some codes from the developer who
need to deploy)

4.Are there any future plan for supporting the pbd files or something
to solve this problem?

5.And the last question:
How is it possible to hide in NVO Corba object? How can we use them?
How can we create corba objects by using appeon?
(Remider : "maybe you can deploy this pbd file as EAServer NVO CORBA
objects,appeon support this action " Thanks again)

Thanks alot.

Appeon wrote:
> Hi, Aydin
>
> Appeon cannot support PBD files. Appeon Developer needs to
> export some PB objects information from PBL files.
>
> Currently, there are no way to hide ancestor objects using
> Appeon.
>
> Howerver, to advoid this issue, we suggest you develop the
> PB application using PBD and then deploy the PB application
> using PBL.
>
> Regards,
> ZXP
> Appeon Support Department


"Paul Horan[TeamSybase]" Posted on 2006-10-19 13:58:04.0Z
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The bottom line is this: Appeon needs the source code because it performs a
translation into Javascript/JSP. If it doesn't have the source, it can't do
the translation. There's no source code in the PBD, so it can't be used.

Why would you possibly want to hide application source code from your own
development team? I can see a reason for preventing them from modifying it,
but even seeing it?

ZXP's solution is the best for you. As developers, you continue to work in
PowerBuilder with the PBDs so that your developers can't see the ancestor
code. When it's time to deploy, you replace the PBDs in the library list
with their corresponding PBLs, and click DEPLOY. When that's done change
the library list and put the PBDs back in there.

Paul Horan[TeamSybase]

<aydinakin2000@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1161265363.633122.32910@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...
>
> Hi,
> I have 5 questions. (Too much? Sorry..)
> Please write your comments for any question(s) you like.
>
> 1.If we develop the PB application using PBD and then deploy the PB
> application
> using PBL, developers cannot deploy? (Can them? No way?)
>
> 2.There is some dll support on appeon. If we create a dll from the pbl
> which contain the ancestor objects, can developers deploy the
> application?
> (Or if the one which have all pbl's deploy the application, the
> developers which doesnt have the pbd's pbl code, can deploy the only
> changes?)
>
> 3.Can developer deploy the application by modifying, copying, changing
> some files on application server without using appeon standart
> deployment procedure?
> (To achive to the aim which is hiding some codes from the developer who
> need to deploy)
>
> 4.Are there any future plan for supporting the pbd files or something
> to solve this problem?
>
> 5.And the last question:
> How is it possible to hide in NVO Corba object? How can we use them?
> How can we create corba objects by using appeon?
> (Remider : "maybe you can deploy this pbd file as EAServer NVO CORBA
> objects,appeon support this action " Thanks again)
>
> Thanks alot.
>
>
>
> Appeon wrote:
>> Hi, Aydin
>>
>> Appeon cannot support PBD files. Appeon Developer needs to
>> export some PB objects information from PBL files.
>>
>> Currently, there are no way to hide ancestor objects using
>> Appeon.
>>
>> Howerver, to advoid this issue, we suggest you develop the
>> PB application using PBD and then deploy the PB application
>> using PBL.
>>
>> Regards,
>> ZXP
>> Appeon Support Department
>


jiangzepeng Posted on 2006-10-12 08:28:49.0Z
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maybe you can deploy this pbd file as EAServer NVO CORBA
objects,appeon support this action

> Hi,
> I am a project manager in a software development company.
> In my project, there are 12 powerbuilder developers. In
> our company, we are using PowerBuilder 7 and 8 to develop
> our products.
>
> We want to migrate our applications to Web based
> applications from client-server architecture by using
> Appeon 5.0 and PB 10 or 10.5.
>
> There are some critical code which the company management
> does not let to share with developers. In powerbuilder 7,
> a pbd file was created which include the critical code for
> this purpose and every developer can use this pbd with
> application's 160 pbl. (The pbd file contains the
> ancestors of datawindows, windows,etc which is used in our
> all applications )
>
> Our developers can create exe and dll files by just adding
> this pbd to their library list. So everything was great.
>
> But now;
> - How can we use a pbd file with Appeon 2.8, 3.,0, 3.1 or
> 5.0? Is it possible? Any idea? (We failed to add pbd and
> dll version of this pbd)
>
> - Is there another way to hide some ancestor objects
> source from developers? (by using Appeon and PB)
>
> Our developers need to deploy applications everytime like
> creating exe and dll files.
>
> Your reply is valuable.
>
> Regards
> Aydin
>


ss Posted on 2012-11-08 07:40:17.0Z
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> maybe you can deploy this pbd file as EAServer NVO CORBA
> objects,appeon support this action
> > Hi,
> > I am a project manager in a software development
> > company. In my project, there are 12 powerbuilder
> > developers. In our company, we are using PowerBuilder 7
> > and 8 to develop our products.
> >
> > We want to migrate our applications to Web based
> > applications from client-server architecture by using
> > Appeon 5.0 and PB 10 or 10.5.
> >
> > There are some critical code which the company
> > management does not let to share with developers. In
> > powerbuilder 7, a pbd file was created which include the
> > critical code for this purpose and every developer can
> > use this pbd with application's 160 pbl. (The pbd file
> > contains the ancestors of datawindows, windows,etc which
> > is used in our all applications )
> >
> > Our developers can create exe and dll files by just
> > adding this pbd to their library list. So everything was
> great. >
> > But now;
> > - How can we use a pbd file with Appeon 2.8, 3.,0, 3.1
> > or 5.0? Is it possible? Any idea? (We failed to add pbd
> > and dll version of this pbd)
> >
> > - Is there another way to hide some ancestor objects
> > source from developers? (by using Appeon and PB)
> >
> > Our developers need to deploy applications everytime
> > like creating exe and dll files.
> >
> > Your reply is valuable.
> >
> > Regards
> > Aydin
> >

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ZXP Posted on 2006-10-18 10:29:34.0Z
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Hi, Aydin

Appeon cannot support PBD files. Appeon Developer needs to
export some PB objects information from PBL files.

Currently, there are no way to hide ancestor objects using
Appeon.

Howerver, to advoid this issue, we suggest you develop the
PB application using PBD and then deploy the PB application
using PBL.

Regards,
ZXP
Appeon Support Department