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A question about Jaguar Manager with multiple servers

7 posts in General Discussion (old) Last posting was on 2000-03-14 03:30:49.0Z
Jamie Crutchley Posted on 2000-03-10 16:43:20.0Z
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Hello all. I've created a user-defined Jaguar server on the same machine as
the default "Jaguar" that we have been using for our initial development
work. I've given it its own jagadmin password and listeners. One thing
I've noticed though is that no matter which server is connected to with
Jaguar Manager, both servers are listed and can be fully controlled. In
other words, loggin in as jagadmin to one server seems to give jagadmin
rights to all other servers running on the same machine. Is this correct or
do I have a setting wrong somewhere? Also, I noticed from some Sybase
tutorials that it is possible to connect to the Jaguar server using "guest"
with no password. How much access does this guest user have? Couldn't this
be a security problem, or am I totally misunderstanding Jaguar security?
Thanks in advance for any answers or a push in the right direction.

Jamie Crutchley
jdcrutch@raystl.com


Dave Wolf [Sybase] Posted on 2000-03-10 16:45:58.0Z
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What you are seeing is multiple servers sharing the same repository. So
when you connectr via JagMan you see a repository wide view. You can avod
this by having each EAS use its own repository. Just install multiple
versions of EAS and set each';s own JAGUAR variable.

Dave Wolf
Internet Applications Division

"Jamie Crutchley" <jdcrutch@raystl.com> wrote in message
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> Hello all. I've created a user-defined Jaguar server on the same machine
as
> the default "Jaguar" that we have been using for our initial development
> work. I've given it its own jagadmin password and listeners. One thing
> I've noticed though is that no matter which server is connected to with
> Jaguar Manager, both servers are listed and can be fully controlled. In
> other words, loggin in as jagadmin to one server seems to give jagadmin
> rights to all other servers running on the same machine. Is this correct
or
> do I have a setting wrong somewhere? Also, I noticed from some Sybase
> tutorials that it is possible to connect to the Jaguar server using
"guest"
> with no password. How much access does this guest user have? Couldn't
this
> be a security problem, or am I totally misunderstanding Jaguar security?
> Thanks in advance for any answers or a push in the right direction.
>
> Jamie Crutchley
> jdcrutch@raystl.com
>
>
>


Jamie Crutchley Posted on 2000-03-10 20:22:29.0Z
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From: "Jamie Crutchley" <jdcrutch@raystl.com>
Subject: Re: A question about Jaguar Manager with multiple servers
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Thanks for the quick reply. I just have one more question (I think). Here
is what I did:

- Copied the entire "Jaguar CTS 3.0" subdirectory to a subdirectory
called "Production"
- Added the "Production" subdirectory to the CLASSPATH
- Changed serverstart.bat in "Production\bin" so that the line that sets
JAGUAR sets it to "Production"
- Ran both the old and new serverstart.bat files, old with
server=Jaguar, new with server=JaguarProduction
- Fired up Jaguar Manager and connected to the OLD (running from "Jaguar
CTS 3.0") Jaguar server
- Deleted JaguarProduction (my user-defined server) from this repository
- Reconnected to the NEW (running from "Production" on a different port)
JaguarProduction server
- Deleted Jaguar (the original server) from this repository
- Viola! I now have to separate Jaguar servers running from different
repositories

My question is regarding CLASSPATH. I know that when I generate stubs I now
have to change the defaults in the Jaguar Manager to reference the new
subdirectory, but how will having both subdirectories in my NT CLASSPATH
variable affect things if both servers have a package/component with the
same name, but that are not identical? In other words, I've got CompX on
JaguarProduction, someone edits it some and deploys it to Jaguar for
testing, what happens when one of the servers attempts to access this
component? Will it just grab whichever comes first in the CLASSPATH string,
or will Jaguar know the correct one to use? Thanks in advance.

Jamie Crutchley
jdcrutch@raystl.com

"Dave Wolf [Sybase]" <dwolf@sybase.com> wrote in message
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> What you are seeing is multiple servers sharing the same repository. So
> when you connectr via JagMan you see a repository wide view. You can avod
> this by having each EAS use its own repository. Just install multiple
> versions of EAS and set each';s own JAGUAR variable.
>
> Dave Wolf
> Internet Applications Division
>
> "Jamie Crutchley" <jdcrutch@raystl.com> wrote in message
> news:1r8NjBri$GA.251@forums.sybase.com...
> > Hello all. I've created a user-defined Jaguar server on the same
machine
> as
> > the default "Jaguar" that we have been using for our initial development
> > work. I've given it its own jagadmin password and listeners. One thing
> > I've noticed though is that no matter which server is connected to with
> > Jaguar Manager, both servers are listed and can be fully controlled. In
> > other words, loggin in as jagadmin to one server seems to give jagadmin
> > rights to all other servers running on the same machine. Is this
correct
> or
> > do I have a setting wrong somewhere? Also, I noticed from some Sybase
> > tutorials that it is possible to connect to the Jaguar server using
> "guest"
> > with no password. How much access does this guest user have? Couldn't
> this
> > be a security problem, or am I totally misunderstanding Jaguar security?
> > Thanks in advance for any answers or a push in the right direction.
> >
> > Jamie Crutchley
> > jdcrutch@raystl.com
> >
> >
> >
>
>


Dave Wolf [Sybase] Posted on 2000-03-14 03:30:49.0Z
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From: "Dave Wolf [Sybase]" <dwolf@sybase.com>
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The servers will look in %JAGUAR%\java\classes first, then html/classes then
the CLASSPATH so you should be ok. You will want to also hard code JAGUAR
into jagmanager.bat so it doesnt get confused.

Dave Wolf
Internet Applications Division

"Jamie Crutchley" <jdcrutch@raystl.com> wrote in message
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> Thanks for the quick reply. I just have one more question (I think).
Here
> is what I did:
>
> - Copied the entire "Jaguar CTS 3.0" subdirectory to a subdirectory
> called "Production"
> - Added the "Production" subdirectory to the CLASSPATH
> - Changed serverstart.bat in "Production\bin" so that the line that
sets
> JAGUAR sets it to "Production"
> - Ran both the old and new serverstart.bat files, old with
> server=Jaguar, new with server=JaguarProduction
> - Fired up Jaguar Manager and connected to the OLD (running from
"Jaguar
> CTS 3.0") Jaguar server
> - Deleted JaguarProduction (my user-defined server) from this
repository
> - Reconnected to the NEW (running from "Production" on a different
port)
> JaguarProduction server
> - Deleted Jaguar (the original server) from this repository
> - Viola! I now have to separate Jaguar servers running from different
> repositories
>
> My question is regarding CLASSPATH. I know that when I generate stubs I
now
> have to change the defaults in the Jaguar Manager to reference the new
> subdirectory, but how will having both subdirectories in my NT CLASSPATH
> variable affect things if both servers have a package/component with the
> same name, but that are not identical? In other words, I've got CompX on
> JaguarProduction, someone edits it some and deploys it to Jaguar for
> testing, what happens when one of the servers attempts to access this
> component? Will it just grab whichever comes first in the CLASSPATH
string,
> or will Jaguar know the correct one to use? Thanks in advance.
>
> Jamie Crutchley
> jdcrutch@raystl.com
>
>
> "Dave Wolf [Sybase]" <dwolf@sybase.com> wrote in message
> news:qg5ZzCri$GA.251@forums.sybase.com...
> > What you are seeing is multiple servers sharing the same repository. So
> > when you connectr via JagMan you see a repository wide view. You can
avod
> > this by having each EAS use its own repository. Just install multiple
> > versions of EAS and set each';s own JAGUAR variable.
> >
> > Dave Wolf
> > Internet Applications Division
> >
> > "Jamie Crutchley" <jdcrutch@raystl.com> wrote in message
> > news:1r8NjBri$GA.251@forums.sybase.com...
> > > Hello all. I've created a user-defined Jaguar server on the same
> machine
> > as
> > > the default "Jaguar" that we have been using for our initial
development
> > > work. I've given it its own jagadmin password and listeners. One
thing
> > > I've noticed though is that no matter which server is connected to
with
> > > Jaguar Manager, both servers are listed and can be fully controlled.
In
> > > other words, loggin in as jagadmin to one server seems to give
jagadmin
> > > rights to all other servers running on the same machine. Is this
> correct
> > or
> > > do I have a setting wrong somewhere? Also, I noticed from some Sybase
> > > tutorials that it is possible to connect to the Jaguar server using
> > "guest"
> > > with no password. How much access does this guest user have?
Couldn't
> > this
> > > be a security problem, or am I totally misunderstanding Jaguar
security?
> > > Thanks in advance for any answers or a push in the right direction.
> > >
> > > Jamie Crutchley
> > > jdcrutch@raystl.com
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>


Evan Ireland Posted on 2000-03-11 23:01:04.0Z
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Jamie Crutchley wrote:
>
> ...
>
> My question is regarding CLASSPATH. I know that when I generate stubs I now
> have to change the defaults in the Jaguar Manager to reference the new
> subdirectory, but how will having both subdirectories in my NT CLASSPATH
> variable affect things if both servers have a package/component with the
> same name, but that are not identical? In other words, I've got CompX on
> JaguarProduction, someone edits it some and deploys it to Jaguar for
> testing, what happens when one of the servers attempts to access this
> component? Will it just grab whichever comes first in the CLASSPATH string,
> or will Jaguar know the correct one to use? Thanks in advance.

Each server should have its own copy of $JAGUAR/html/classes. You should
use the "Synchronize" option in Jaguar Manager to copy components and
related files from one server to another.
________________________________________________________________________________

Evan Ireland Sybase EAServer Engineering eireland@sybase.com
Wellington, New Zealand +64 4 934-5856


Jamie Crutchley Posted on 2000-03-13 14:41:01.0Z
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Ok, but since both servers are running on the same computer, that computer
will have two "/html/classes" subdirectories in its classpath. I'm not real
familiar with how the classpath works and I'm not sure if I'm explaining
myself very well here, but if there is a component with the SAME component
and package name installed in both servers, but different implementation, is
there a chance of the wrong one being implemented? Such as Jaguar Server A
using the implementation from Jaguar Server B?

"Evan Ireland" <eireland@sybase.com> wrote in message
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> Jamie Crutchley wrote:
> >
> > ...
> >
> > My question is regarding CLASSPATH. I know that when I generate stubs I
now
> > have to change the defaults in the Jaguar Manager to reference the new
> > subdirectory, but how will having both subdirectories in my NT CLASSPATH
> > variable affect things if both servers have a package/component with the
> > same name, but that are not identical? In other words, I've got CompX
on
> > JaguarProduction, someone edits it some and deploys it to Jaguar for
> > testing, what happens when one of the servers attempts to access this
> > component? Will it just grab whichever comes first in the CLASSPATH
string,
> > or will Jaguar know the correct one to use? Thanks in advance.
>
> Each server should have its own copy of $JAGUAR/html/classes. You should
> use the "Synchronize" option in Jaguar Manager to copy components and
> related files from one server to another.
>

____________________________________________________________________________
____
>
> Evan Ireland Sybase EAServer Engineering
eireland@sybase.com
> Wellington, New Zealand +64 4
934-5856


Dave Wolf [Sybase] Posted on 2000-03-13 14:47:36.0Z
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Just set this all up in the serverstart.ba6 scripts.

Dave Wolf
Internet Applications Division

"Jamie Crutchley" <jdcrutch@raystl.com> wrote in message
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> Ok, but since both servers are running on the same computer, that computer
> will have two "/html/classes" subdirectories in its classpath. I'm not
real
> familiar with how the classpath works and I'm not sure if I'm explaining
> myself very well here, but if there is a component with the SAME component
> and package name installed in both servers, but different implementation,
is
> there a chance of the wrong one being implemented? Such as Jaguar Server
A
> using the implementation from Jaguar Server B?
>
> "Evan Ireland" <eireland@sybase.com> wrote in message
> news:38CAD030.FE033FEA@sybase.com...
> > Jamie Crutchley wrote:
> > >
> > > ...
> > >
> > > My question is regarding CLASSPATH. I know that when I generate stubs
I
> now
> > > have to change the defaults in the Jaguar Manager to reference the new
> > > subdirectory, but how will having both subdirectories in my NT
CLASSPATH
> > > variable affect things if both servers have a package/component with
the
> > > same name, but that are not identical? In other words, I've got CompX
> on
> > > JaguarProduction, someone edits it some and deploys it to Jaguar for
> > > testing, what happens when one of the servers attempts to access this
> > > component? Will it just grab whichever comes first in the CLASSPATH
> string,
> > > or will Jaguar know the correct one to use? Thanks in advance.
> >
> > Each server should have its own copy of $JAGUAR/html/classes. You should
> > use the "Synchronize" option in Jaguar Manager to copy components and
> > related files from one server to another.
> >
>
____________________________________________________________________________
> ____
> >
> > Evan Ireland Sybase EAServer Engineering
> eireland@sybase.com
> > Wellington, New Zealand +64 4
> 934-5856
>
>