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Java, XML in EAServer 3.5

10 posts in General Discussion (old) Last posting was on 2000-02-22 13:47:47.0Z
Nick N Posted on 2000-02-17 04:34:01.0Z
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I need to decide what webserver to use. Basically what I want it a web
server with native Sybase/Oracle connections with Java (Servlet, JSP, Beans)
and XML capabilities. I know that EAServer is made up of PowerDynamo and
Jag. I'm wondering if it supports things that I need. Where does the java
classes get deployed to? Jaguar? or File system? How about XML. I need to
read data in XML and insert records into Sybase ASE...can EAServer help me?

Thanks
Much


Bill Zhang Posted on 2000-02-17 05:21:24.0Z
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Nick:

1. EAServer is web server indepdent. It depends on how you are going to
size your application.
2. You may want to use your application server to manage your DB
connections since most application servers have connection pooling
capability such as EAServer. EAServer has Servlet support prior to version
3 and EJB 1.0+ support in version 3.5. With EAServer 3.5.1 due end of Q1,
it will also have JSP, JMS support. You can develop your application in
Java/CORBA components or EJB components and deployed to EAServer.
3. You can deal with your XML data in the application server layer such as
in EAServer 3.5 (PowerDynamo 3.5) or in backend database layer as ASE 12 can
parse or store XML. For your XML data, you can either deal with it in
EAServer or Sybase ASE 12.

Bill Z.

Nick N <nicksan@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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> I need to decide what webserver to use. Basically what I want it a web
> server with native Sybase/Oracle connections with Java (Servlet, JSP,
Beans)
> and XML capabilities. I know that EAServer is made up of PowerDynamo and
> Jag. I'm wondering if it supports things that I need. Where does the java
> classes get deployed to? Jaguar? or File system? How about XML. I need to
> read data in XML and insert records into Sybase ASE...can EAServer help
me?
>
> Thanks
> Much
>
>


Nick N. Posted on 2000-02-17 16:30:45.0Z
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From: "Nick N." <nicksan@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: Java, XML in EAServer 3.5
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Let's say I do go the self contained EAServer 3.5 route.

All these Java classes(Servlets included) would have to go through a
"special" deployment step to get it into EAServer?

Right now I use IIS with a Servlet plugin (Jrun, ServletExec...). I open up
notepad. Do a compile via javac and "deploy" to my file system as a x.class
file. Would it be the same way in EAServer?

I did read that EAServer 3.5does native Sybase/Oracle connections as well as
XML.

So I can use EAServer as a one stop solution for all of my needs?


Sorry for all the Q's...I'm a bit confused by all this new stuff!


Thanks
Nick

Bill Zhang <bill.zhang@sybase.com> wrote in message
news:b41UWdQe$GA.223@forums.sybase.com...
> Nick:
>
> 1. EAServer is web server indepdent. It depends on how you are going to
> size your application.
> 2. You may want to use your application server to manage your DB
> connections since most application servers have connection pooling
> capability such as EAServer. EAServer has Servlet support prior to
version
> 3 and EJB 1.0+ support in version 3.5. With EAServer 3.5.1 due end of Q1,
> it will also have JSP, JMS support. You can develop your application in
> Java/CORBA components or EJB components and deployed to EAServer.
> 3. You can deal with your XML data in the application server layer such
as
> in EAServer 3.5 (PowerDynamo 3.5) or in backend database layer as ASE 12
can
> parse or store XML. For your XML data, you can either deal with it in
> EAServer or Sybase ASE 12.
>
> Bill Z.
>
> Nick N <nicksan@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
> news:4msLTBQe$GA.223@forums.sybase.com...
> > I need to decide what webserver to use. Basically what I want it a web
> > server with native Sybase/Oracle connections with Java (Servlet, JSP,
> Beans)
> > and XML capabilities. I know that EAServer is made up of PowerDynamo and
> > Jag. I'm wondering if it supports things that I need. Where does the
java
> > classes get deployed to? Jaguar? or File system? How about XML. I need
to
> > read data in XML and insert records into Sybase ASE...can EAServer help
> me?
> >
> > Thanks
> > Much
> >
> >
>
>


Timothy P Beck Posted on 2000-02-17 23:20:37.0Z
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Nick,

Servlets can be even easier in EAServer (using IIS4) because you can just
put the class in the proper directory and call the class directly .... It
doesn't need to be "Installed" or "Deployed" to EAServer. Having said this,
it is a usually a good idea to install the servlet in Jaguar (a two step
process ... name it and point to it) so Jaguar can manage it for you.

--
Timothy P. Beck
IntelliServe LLC
An Intelligent Choice
www.intelliserve.com
tpbeck@intelliserve.com
(760) 431-1310

Nick N. <nicksan@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:TJKPuQWe$GA.184@forums.sybase.com...
> Let's say I do go the self contained EAServer 3.5 route.
>
> All these Java classes(Servlets included) would have to go through a
> "special" deployment step to get it into EAServer?
>
> Right now I use IIS with a Servlet plugin (Jrun, ServletExec...). I open
up
> notepad. Do a compile via javac and "deploy" to my file system as a
x.class
> file. Would it be the same way in EAServer?
>
> I did read that EAServer 3.5does native Sybase/Oracle connections as well
as
> XML.
>
> So I can use EAServer as a one stop solution for all of my needs?
>
>
> Sorry for all the Q's...I'm a bit confused by all this new stuff!
>
>
> Thanks
> Nick
>
> Bill Zhang <bill.zhang@sybase.com> wrote in message
> news:b41UWdQe$GA.223@forums.sybase.com...
> > Nick:
> >
> > 1. EAServer is web server indepdent. It depends on how you are going
to
> > size your application.
> > 2. You may want to use your application server to manage your DB
> > connections since most application servers have connection pooling
> > capability such as EAServer. EAServer has Servlet support prior to
> version
> > 3 and EJB 1.0+ support in version 3.5. With EAServer 3.5.1 due end of
Q1,
> > it will also have JSP, JMS support. You can develop your application in
> > Java/CORBA components or EJB components and deployed to EAServer.
> > 3. You can deal with your XML data in the application server layer such
> as
> > in EAServer 3.5 (PowerDynamo 3.5) or in backend database layer as ASE 12
> can
> > parse or store XML. For your XML data, you can either deal with it in
> > EAServer or Sybase ASE 12.
> >
> > Bill Z.
> >
> > Nick N <nicksan@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
> > news:4msLTBQe$GA.223@forums.sybase.com...
> > > I need to decide what webserver to use. Basically what I want it a web
> > > server with native Sybase/Oracle connections with Java (Servlet, JSP,
> > Beans)
> > > and XML capabilities. I know that EAServer is made up of PowerDynamo
and
> > > Jag. I'm wondering if it supports things that I need. Where does the
> java
> > > classes get deployed to? Jaguar? or File system? How about XML. I need
> to
> > > read data in XML and insert records into Sybase ASE...can EAServer
help
> > me?
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > > Much
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>


Nick N. Posted on 2000-02-18 14:58:39.0Z
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is there something equivalent to the <SERVLET> tag in PowerDynamo (or ASP)I
can use. Basically I want to run a servlet within the same web
page...meaning I don't want to use <HREF> to get redirected to another
page...That's what I ultimitely want to do...

Well if I do use Jag, then I guess I can get rid of db connections that I
have in the servlets right? Let Jag manage it...it's better right?

You mention IIS4...PowerDynamo is Sybase's equivalent right? Is there an
advantage of using IIS4? When you say EAServer and IIS you mean use Jag,
PowerDynamo and IIS at the same time?

Sorry, I'm a bit confused!

Thanks
Nick

Timothy P Beck <tpbeck@intelliserve.com> wrote in message
news:qbz7B3Ze$GA.149@forums.sybase.com...
> Nick,
>
> Servlets can be even easier in EAServer (using IIS4) because you can just
> put the class in the proper directory and call the class directly .... It
> doesn't need to be "Installed" or "Deployed" to EAServer. Having said
this,
> it is a usually a good idea to install the servlet in Jaguar (a two step
> process ... name it and point to it) so Jaguar can manage it for you.
>
> --
> Timothy P. Beck
> IntelliServe LLC
> An Intelligent Choice
> www.intelliserve.com
> tpbeck@intelliserve.com
> (760) 431-1310
>
> Nick N. <nicksan@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
> news:TJKPuQWe$GA.184@forums.sybase.com...
> > Let's say I do go the self contained EAServer 3.5 route.
> >
> > All these Java classes(Servlets included) would have to go through a
> > "special" deployment step to get it into EAServer?
> >
> > Right now I use IIS with a Servlet plugin (Jrun, ServletExec...). I open
> up
> > notepad. Do a compile via javac and "deploy" to my file system as a
> x.class
> > file. Would it be the same way in EAServer?
> >
> > I did read that EAServer 3.5does native Sybase/Oracle connections as
well
> as
> > XML.
> >
> > So I can use EAServer as a one stop solution for all of my needs?
> >
> >
> > Sorry for all the Q's...I'm a bit confused by all this new stuff!
> >
> >
> > Thanks
> > Nick
> >
> > Bill Zhang <bill.zhang@sybase.com> wrote in message
> > news:b41UWdQe$GA.223@forums.sybase.com...
> > > Nick:
> > >
> > > 1. EAServer is web server indepdent. It depends on how you are going
> to
> > > size your application.
> > > 2. You may want to use your application server to manage your DB
> > > connections since most application servers have connection pooling
> > > capability such as EAServer. EAServer has Servlet support prior to
> > version
> > > 3 and EJB 1.0+ support in version 3.5. With EAServer 3.5.1 due end of
> Q1,
> > > it will also have JSP, JMS support. You can develop your application
in
> > > Java/CORBA components or EJB components and deployed to EAServer.
> > > 3. You can deal with your XML data in the application server layer
such
> > as
> > > in EAServer 3.5 (PowerDynamo 3.5) or in backend database layer as ASE
12
> > can
> > > parse or store XML. For your XML data, you can either deal with it in
> > > EAServer or Sybase ASE 12.
> > >
> > > Bill Z.
> > >
> > > Nick N <nicksan@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
> > > news:4msLTBQe$GA.223@forums.sybase.com...
> > > > I need to decide what webserver to use. Basically what I want it a
web
> > > > server with native Sybase/Oracle connections with Java (Servlet,
JSP,
> > > Beans)
> > > > and XML capabilities. I know that EAServer is made up of PowerDynamo
> and
> > > > Jag. I'm wondering if it supports things that I need. Where does the
> > java
> > > > classes get deployed to? Jaguar? or File system? How about XML. I
need
> > to
> > > > read data in XML and insert records into Sybase ASE...can EAServer
> help
> > > me?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > > Much
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>


Bill Green[TeamSybase] Posted on 2000-02-18 18:06:42.0Z
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IIS is a web-server. Dynamo is a Page server (like ASP but better) and Jaguar is
an Application-Server (like MTS but better). EAServer is NOT a web-server even
though Jaguar can support http calls. It's not designed for this purpose, and I
believe was purposely designed not to be a web-server.

Bill

"Nick N." wrote:

> is there something equivalent to the <SERVLET> tag in PowerDynamo (or ASP)I
> can use. Basically I want to run a servlet within the same web
> page...meaning I don't want to use <HREF> to get redirected to another
> page...That's what I ultimitely want to do...
>
> Well if I do use Jag, then I guess I can get rid of db connections that I
> have in the servlets right? Let Jag manage it...it's better right?
>
> You mention IIS4...PowerDynamo is Sybase's equivalent right? Is there an
> advantage of using IIS4? When you say EAServer and IIS you mean use Jag,
> PowerDynamo and IIS at the same time?
>
> Sorry, I'm a bit confused!
>
> Thanks
> Nick
>
> Timothy P Beck <tpbeck@intelliserve.com> wrote in message
> news:qbz7B3Ze$GA.149@forums.sybase.com...
> > Nick,
> >
> > Servlets can be even easier in EAServer (using IIS4) because you can just
> > put the class in the proper directory and call the class directly .... It
> > doesn't need to be "Installed" or "Deployed" to EAServer. Having said
> this,
> > it is a usually a good idea to install the servlet in Jaguar (a two step
> > process ... name it and point to it) so Jaguar can manage it for you.
> >
> > --
> > Timothy P. Beck
> > IntelliServe LLC
> > An Intelligent Choice
> > www.intelliserve.com
> > tpbeck@intelliserve.com
> > (760) 431-1310
> >
> > Nick N. <nicksan@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
> > news:TJKPuQWe$GA.184@forums.sybase.com...
> > > Let's say I do go the self contained EAServer 3.5 route.
> > >
> > > All these Java classes(Servlets included) would have to go through a
> > > "special" deployment step to get it into EAServer?
> > >
> > > Right now I use IIS with a Servlet plugin (Jrun, ServletExec...). I open
> > up
> > > notepad. Do a compile via javac and "deploy" to my file system as a
> > x.class
> > > file. Would it be the same way in EAServer?
> > >
> > > I did read that EAServer 3.5does native Sybase/Oracle connections as
> well
> > as
> > > XML.
> > >
> > > So I can use EAServer as a one stop solution for all of my needs?
> > >
> > >
> > > Sorry for all the Q's...I'm a bit confused by all this new stuff!
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > > Nick
> > >
> > > Bill Zhang <bill.zhang@sybase.com> wrote in message
> > > news:b41UWdQe$GA.223@forums.sybase.com...
> > > > Nick:
> > > >
> > > > 1. EAServer is web server indepdent. It depends on how you are going
> > to
> > > > size your application.
> > > > 2. You may want to use your application server to manage your DB
> > > > connections since most application servers have connection pooling
> > > > capability such as EAServer. EAServer has Servlet support prior to
> > > version
> > > > 3 and EJB 1.0+ support in version 3.5. With EAServer 3.5.1 due end of
> > Q1,
> > > > it will also have JSP, JMS support. You can develop your application
> in
> > > > Java/CORBA components or EJB components and deployed to EAServer.
> > > > 3. You can deal with your XML data in the application server layer
> such
> > > as
> > > > in EAServer 3.5 (PowerDynamo 3.5) or in backend database layer as ASE
> 12
> > > can
> > > > parse or store XML. For your XML data, you can either deal with it in
> > > > EAServer or Sybase ASE 12.
> > > >
> > > > Bill Z.
> > > >
> > > > Nick N <nicksan@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
> > > > news:4msLTBQe$GA.223@forums.sybase.com...
> > > > > I need to decide what webserver to use. Basically what I want it a
> web
> > > > > server with native Sybase/Oracle connections with Java (Servlet,
> JSP,
> > > > Beans)
> > > > > and XML capabilities. I know that EAServer is made up of PowerDynamo
> > and
> > > > > Jag. I'm wondering if it supports things that I need. Where does the
> > > java
> > > > > classes get deployed to? Jaguar? or File system? How about XML. I
> need
> > > to
> > > > > read data in XML and insert records into Sybase ASE...can EAServer
> > help
> > > > me?
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks
> > > > > Much
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >

--
Bill Green[TeamSybase]

Good Links to know:
Sybase Developer Network (SDN) - http://www.sybase.com/sdn
PFC Guide - http://www.pfcguide.com
Power3 - Custom Training - http://www.power3.com


Nick N. Posted on 2000-02-18 23:01:26.0Z
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I was under the impression that PowerDynamo was also a Web Server that can
replace IIS. I know that it allows you to store web-sites in rdbms like
Sybase ASE.

So in a sense PowerDynamo relies on a web server such as IIS? I know that
IIS is going to be in my environment so the best way to do this would be to
use IIS (web server), PowerDynamo (Pager Server) and Jag (app server)?

Sorry for the silly Q's.

Thanks
Nick

Bill Green[TeamSybase] <bill.green@teamsybase.com> wrote in message
news:38AD8A32.9F88273@teamsybase.com...
> IIS is a web-server. Dynamo is a Page server (like ASP but better) and
Jaguar is
> an Application-Server (like MTS but better). EAServer is NOT a web-server
even
> though Jaguar can support http calls. It's not designed for this purpose,
and I
> believe was purposely designed not to be a web-server.
>
> Bill
>
> "Nick N." wrote:
>
> > is there something equivalent to the <SERVLET> tag in PowerDynamo (or
ASP)I
> > can use. Basically I want to run a servlet within the same web
> > page...meaning I don't want to use <HREF> to get redirected to another
> > page...That's what I ultimitely want to do...
> >
> > Well if I do use Jag, then I guess I can get rid of db connections that
I
> > have in the servlets right? Let Jag manage it...it's better right?
> >
> > You mention IIS4...PowerDynamo is Sybase's equivalent right? Is there an
> > advantage of using IIS4? When you say EAServer and IIS you mean use Jag,
> > PowerDynamo and IIS at the same time?
> >
> > Sorry, I'm a bit confused!
> >
> > Thanks
> > Nick
> >
> > Timothy P Beck <tpbeck@intelliserve.com> wrote in message
> > news:qbz7B3Ze$GA.149@forums.sybase.com...
> > > Nick,
> > >
> > > Servlets can be even easier in EAServer (using IIS4) because you can
just
> > > put the class in the proper directory and call the class directly ....
It
> > > doesn't need to be "Installed" or "Deployed" to EAServer. Having said
> > this,
> > > it is a usually a good idea to install the servlet in Jaguar (a two
step
> > > process ... name it and point to it) so Jaguar can manage it for you.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Timothy P. Beck
> > > IntelliServe LLC
> > > An Intelligent Choice
> > > www.intelliserve.com
> > > tpbeck@intelliserve.com
> > > (760) 431-1310
> > >
> > > Nick N. <nicksan@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
> > > news:TJKPuQWe$GA.184@forums.sybase.com...
> > > > Let's say I do go the self contained EAServer 3.5 route.
> > > >
> > > > All these Java classes(Servlets included) would have to go through a
> > > > "special" deployment step to get it into EAServer?
> > > >
> > > > Right now I use IIS with a Servlet plugin (Jrun, ServletExec...). I
open
> > > up
> > > > notepad. Do a compile via javac and "deploy" to my file system as a
> > > x.class
> > > > file. Would it be the same way in EAServer?
> > > >
> > > > I did read that EAServer 3.5does native Sybase/Oracle connections as
> > well
> > > as
> > > > XML.
> > > >
> > > > So I can use EAServer as a one stop solution for all of my needs?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Sorry for all the Q's...I'm a bit confused by all this new stuff!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > > Nick
> > > >
> > > > Bill Zhang <bill.zhang@sybase.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:b41UWdQe$GA.223@forums.sybase.com...
> > > > > Nick:
> > > > >
> > > > > 1. EAServer is web server indepdent. It depends on how you are
going
> > > to
> > > > > size your application.
> > > > > 2. You may want to use your application server to manage your DB
> > > > > connections since most application servers have connection pooling
> > > > > capability such as EAServer. EAServer has Servlet support prior
to
> > > > version
> > > > > 3 and EJB 1.0+ support in version 3.5. With EAServer 3.5.1 due
end of
> > > Q1,
> > > > > it will also have JSP, JMS support. You can develop your
application
> > in
> > > > > Java/CORBA components or EJB components and deployed to EAServer.
> > > > > 3. You can deal with your XML data in the application server
layer
> > such
> > > > as
> > > > > in EAServer 3.5 (PowerDynamo 3.5) or in backend database layer as
ASE
> > 12
> > > > can
> > > > > parse or store XML. For your XML data, you can either deal with
it in
> > > > > EAServer or Sybase ASE 12.
> > > > >
> > > > > Bill Z.
> > > > >
> > > > > Nick N <nicksan@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
> > > > > news:4msLTBQe$GA.223@forums.sybase.com...
> > > > > > I need to decide what webserver to use. Basically what I want it
a
> > web
> > > > > > server with native Sybase/Oracle connections with Java (Servlet,
> > JSP,
> > > > > Beans)
> > > > > > and XML capabilities. I know that EAServer is made up of
PowerDynamo
> > > and
> > > > > > Jag. I'm wondering if it supports things that I need. Where does
the
> > > > java
> > > > > > classes get deployed to? Jaguar? or File system? How about XML.
I
> > need
> > > > to
> > > > > > read data in XML and insert records into Sybase ASE...can
EAServer
> > > help
> > > > > me?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > Much
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
>
> --
> Bill Green[TeamSybase]
>
> Good Links to know:
> Sybase Developer Network (SDN) - http://www.sybase.com/sdn
> PFC Guide - http://www.pfcguide.com
> Power3 - Custom Training - http://www.power3.com
>
>


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sorry -- change that last PS to PD.

Joe

"Nick N." wrote:

> I was under the impression that PowerDynamo was also a Web Server that can
> replace IIS. I know that it allows you to store web-sites in rdbms like
> Sybase ASE.
>
> So in a sense PowerDynamo relies on a web server such as IIS? I know that
> IIS is going to be in my environment so the best way to do this would be to
> use IIS (web server), PowerDynamo (Pager Server) and Jag (app server)?
>
> Sorry for the silly Q's.
>
> Thanks
> Nick
>
> Bill Green[TeamSybase] <bill.green@teamsybase.com> wrote in message
> news:38AD8A32.9F88273@teamsybase.com...
> > IIS is a web-server. Dynamo is a Page server (like ASP but better) and
> Jaguar is
> > an Application-Server (like MTS but better). EAServer is NOT a web-server
> even
> > though Jaguar can support http calls. It's not designed for this purpose,
> and I
> > believe was purposely designed not to be a web-server.
> >
> > Bill
> >
> > "Nick N." wrote:
> >
> > > is there something equivalent to the <SERVLET> tag in PowerDynamo (or
> ASP)I
> > > can use. Basically I want to run a servlet within the same web
> > > page...meaning I don't want to use <HREF> to get redirected to another
> > > page...That's what I ultimitely want to do...
> > >
> > > Well if I do use Jag, then I guess I can get rid of db connections that
> I
> > > have in the servlets right? Let Jag manage it...it's better right?
> > >
> > > You mention IIS4...PowerDynamo is Sybase's equivalent right? Is there an
> > > advantage of using IIS4? When you say EAServer and IIS you mean use Jag,
> > > PowerDynamo and IIS at the same time?
> > >
> > > Sorry, I'm a bit confused!
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > > Nick
> > >
> > > Timothy P Beck <tpbeck@intelliserve.com> wrote in message
> > > news:qbz7B3Ze$GA.149@forums.sybase.com...
> > > > Nick,
> > > >
> > > > Servlets can be even easier in EAServer (using IIS4) because you can
> just
> > > > put the class in the proper directory and call the class directly ....
> It
> > > > doesn't need to be "Installed" or "Deployed" to EAServer. Having said
> > > this,
> > > > it is a usually a good idea to install the servlet in Jaguar (a two
> step
> > > > process ... name it and point to it) so Jaguar can manage it for you.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Timothy P. Beck
> > > > IntelliServe LLC
> > > > An Intelligent Choice
> > > > www.intelliserve.com
> > > > tpbeck@intelliserve.com
> > > > (760) 431-1310
> > > >
> > > > Nick N. <nicksan@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
> > > > news:TJKPuQWe$GA.184@forums.sybase.com...
> > > > > Let's say I do go the self contained EAServer 3.5 route.
> > > > >
> > > > > All these Java classes(Servlets included) would have to go through a
> > > > > "special" deployment step to get it into EAServer?
> > > > >
> > > > > Right now I use IIS with a Servlet plugin (Jrun, ServletExec...). I
> open
> > > > up
> > > > > notepad. Do a compile via javac and "deploy" to my file system as a
> > > > x.class
> > > > > file. Would it be the same way in EAServer?
> > > > >
> > > > > I did read that EAServer 3.5does native Sybase/Oracle connections as
> > > well
> > > > as
> > > > > XML.
> > > > >
> > > > > So I can use EAServer as a one stop solution for all of my needs?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Sorry for all the Q's...I'm a bit confused by all this new stuff!
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks
> > > > > Nick
> > > > >
> > > > > Bill Zhang <bill.zhang@sybase.com> wrote in message
> > > > > news:b41UWdQe$GA.223@forums.sybase.com...
> > > > > > Nick:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 1. EAServer is web server indepdent. It depends on how you are
> going
> > > > to
> > > > > > size your application.
> > > > > > 2. You may want to use your application server to manage your DB
> > > > > > connections since most application servers have connection pooling
> > > > > > capability such as EAServer. EAServer has Servlet support prior
> to
> > > > > version
> > > > > > 3 and EJB 1.0+ support in version 3.5. With EAServer 3.5.1 due
> end of
> > > > Q1,
> > > > > > it will also have JSP, JMS support. You can develop your
> application
> > > in
> > > > > > Java/CORBA components or EJB components and deployed to EAServer.
> > > > > > 3. You can deal with your XML data in the application server
> layer
> > > such
> > > > > as
> > > > > > in EAServer 3.5 (PowerDynamo 3.5) or in backend database layer as
> ASE
> > > 12
> > > > > can
> > > > > > parse or store XML. For your XML data, you can either deal with
> it in
> > > > > > EAServer or Sybase ASE 12.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Bill Z.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Nick N <nicksan@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
> > > > > > news:4msLTBQe$GA.223@forums.sybase.com...
> > > > > > > I need to decide what webserver to use. Basically what I want it
> a
> > > web
> > > > > > > server with native Sybase/Oracle connections with Java (Servlet,
> > > JSP,
> > > > > > Beans)
> > > > > > > and XML capabilities. I know that EAServer is made up of
> PowerDynamo
> > > > and
> > > > > > > Jag. I'm wondering if it supports things that I need. Where does
> the
> > > > > java
> > > > > > > classes get deployed to? Jaguar? or File system? How about XML.
> I
> > > need
> > > > > to
> > > > > > > read data in XML and insert records into Sybase ASE...can
> EAServer
> > > > help
> > > > > > me?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > > Much
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> >
> > --
> > Bill Green[TeamSybase]
> >
> > Good Links to know:
> > Sybase Developer Network (SDN) - http://www.sybase.com/sdn
> > PFC Guide - http://www.pfcguide.com
> > Power3 - Custom Training - http://www.power3.com
> >
> >


Joe Coady Posted on 2000-02-22 13:47:26.0Z
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Depending upon your needs you may be able to get away with just PD and IIS.
PowerDynamo can handle XML and connect directly to DBMS. IIS would be the web
server for interfacing to the clients. Also, PS is fast and efficient.

Joe

"Nick N." wrote:

> I was under the impression that PowerDynamo was also a Web Server that can
> replace IIS. I know that it allows you to store web-sites in rdbms like
> Sybase ASE.
>
> So in a sense PowerDynamo relies on a web server such as IIS? I know that
> IIS is going to be in my environment so the best way to do this would be to
> use IIS (web server), PowerDynamo (Pager Server) and Jag (app server)?
>
> Sorry for the silly Q's.
>
> Thanks
> Nick
>
> Bill Green[TeamSybase] <bill.green@teamsybase.com> wrote in message
> news:38AD8A32.9F88273@teamsybase.com...
> > IIS is a web-server. Dynamo is a Page server (like ASP but better) and
> Jaguar is
> > an Application-Server (like MTS but better). EAServer is NOT a web-server
> even
> > though Jaguar can support http calls. It's not designed for this purpose,
> and I
> > believe was purposely designed not to be a web-server.
> >
> > Bill
> >
> > "Nick N." wrote:
> >
> > > is there something equivalent to the <SERVLET> tag in PowerDynamo (or
> ASP)I
> > > can use. Basically I want to run a servlet within the same web
> > > page...meaning I don't want to use <HREF> to get redirected to another
> > > page...That's what I ultimitely want to do...
> > >
> > > Well if I do use Jag, then I guess I can get rid of db connections that
> I
> > > have in the servlets right? Let Jag manage it...it's better right?
> > >
> > > You mention IIS4...PowerDynamo is Sybase's equivalent right? Is there an
> > > advantage of using IIS4? When you say EAServer and IIS you mean use Jag,
> > > PowerDynamo and IIS at the same time?
> > >
> > > Sorry, I'm a bit confused!
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > > Nick
> > >
> > > Timothy P Beck <tpbeck@intelliserve.com> wrote in message
> > > news:qbz7B3Ze$GA.149@forums.sybase.com...
> > > > Nick,
> > > >
> > > > Servlets can be even easier in EAServer (using IIS4) because you can
> just
> > > > put the class in the proper directory and call the class directly ....
> It
> > > > doesn't need to be "Installed" or "Deployed" to EAServer. Having said
> > > this,
> > > > it is a usually a good idea to install the servlet in Jaguar (a two
> step
> > > > process ... name it and point to it) so Jaguar can manage it for you.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Timothy P. Beck
> > > > IntelliServe LLC
> > > > An Intelligent Choice
> > > > www.intelliserve.com
> > > > tpbeck@intelliserve.com
> > > > (760) 431-1310
> > > >
> > > > Nick N. <nicksan@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
> > > > news:TJKPuQWe$GA.184@forums.sybase.com...
> > > > > Let's say I do go the self contained EAServer 3.5 route.
> > > > >
> > > > > All these Java classes(Servlets included) would have to go through a
> > > > > "special" deployment step to get it into EAServer?
> > > > >
> > > > > Right now I use IIS with a Servlet plugin (Jrun, ServletExec...). I
> open
> > > > up
> > > > > notepad. Do a compile via javac and "deploy" to my file system as a
> > > > x.class
> > > > > file. Would it be the same way in EAServer?
> > > > >
> > > > > I did read that EAServer 3.5does native Sybase/Oracle connections as
> > > well
> > > > as
> > > > > XML.
> > > > >
> > > > > So I can use EAServer as a one stop solution for all of my needs?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Sorry for all the Q's...I'm a bit confused by all this new stuff!
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks
> > > > > Nick
> > > > >
> > > > > Bill Zhang <bill.zhang@sybase.com> wrote in message
> > > > > news:b41UWdQe$GA.223@forums.sybase.com...
> > > > > > Nick:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 1. EAServer is web server indepdent. It depends on how you are
> going
> > > > to
> > > > > > size your application.
> > > > > > 2. You may want to use your application server to manage your DB
> > > > > > connections since most application servers have connection pooling
> > > > > > capability such as EAServer. EAServer has Servlet support prior
> to
> > > > > version
> > > > > > 3 and EJB 1.0+ support in version 3.5. With EAServer 3.5.1 due
> end of
> > > > Q1,
> > > > > > it will also have JSP, JMS support. You can develop your
> application
> > > in
> > > > > > Java/CORBA components or EJB components and deployed to EAServer.
> > > > > > 3. You can deal with your XML data in the application server
> layer
> > > such
> > > > > as
> > > > > > in EAServer 3.5 (PowerDynamo 3.5) or in backend database layer as
> ASE
> > > 12
> > > > > can
> > > > > > parse or store XML. For your XML data, you can either deal with
> it in
> > > > > > EAServer or Sybase ASE 12.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Bill Z.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Nick N <nicksan@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
> > > > > > news:4msLTBQe$GA.223@forums.sybase.com...
> > > > > > > I need to decide what webserver to use. Basically what I want it
> a
> > > web
> > > > > > > server with native Sybase/Oracle connections with Java (Servlet,
> > > JSP,
> > > > > > Beans)
> > > > > > > and XML capabilities. I know that EAServer is made up of
> PowerDynamo
> > > > and
> > > > > > > Jag. I'm wondering if it supports things that I need. Where does
> the
> > > > > java
> > > > > > > classes get deployed to? Jaguar? or File system? How about XML.
> I
> > > need
> > > > > to
> > > > > > > read data in XML and insert records into Sybase ASE...can
> EAServer
> > > > help
> > > > > > me?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > > Much
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> >
> > --
> > Bill Green[TeamSybase]
> >
> > Good Links to know:
> > Sybase Developer Network (SDN) - http://www.sybase.com/sdn
> > PFC Guide - http://www.pfcguide.com
> > Power3 - Custom Training - http://www.power3.com
> >
> >


Bill Green[TeamSybase] Posted on 2000-02-17 22:18:22.0Z
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I don't think there's that much too it. You can use the same servlet plug-ins in
Jaguar (at least you can use jRun), so I expect that in that case, servlets
would work the same way.

EAS does connect to Sybase and Oracle natively. I believe that XML support is
still coming through.

EAServer really is much more of a one-stop solution than any of the others that
are out there, at least as an environment that is flexible enough to work with
basically (Anything on the frontend -> any component in the middle -> any
database on the backend). It's certianly a comprehensive solution, and just
getting better.


Bill

"Nick N." wrote:

> Let's say I do go the self contained EAServer 3.5 route.
>
> All these Java classes(Servlets included) would have to go through a
> "special" deployment step to get it into EAServer?
>
> Right now I use IIS with a Servlet plugin (Jrun, ServletExec...). I open up
> notepad. Do a compile via javac and "deploy" to my file system as a x.class
> file. Would it be the same way in EAServer?
>
> I did read that EAServer 3.5does native Sybase/Oracle connections as well as
> XML.
>
> So I can use EAServer as a one stop solution for all of my needs?
>
> Sorry for all the Q's...I'm a bit confused by all this new stuff!
>
> Thanks
> Nick
>
> Bill Zhang <bill.zhang@sybase.com> wrote in message
> news:b41UWdQe$GA.223@forums.sybase.com...
> > Nick:
> >
> > 1. EAServer is web server indepdent. It depends on how you are going to
> > size your application.
> > 2. You may want to use your application server to manage your DB
> > connections since most application servers have connection pooling
> > capability such as EAServer. EAServer has Servlet support prior to
> version
> > 3 and EJB 1.0+ support in version 3.5. With EAServer 3.5.1 due end of Q1,
> > it will also have JSP, JMS support. You can develop your application in
> > Java/CORBA components or EJB components and deployed to EAServer.
> > 3. You can deal with your XML data in the application server layer such
> as
> > in EAServer 3.5 (PowerDynamo 3.5) or in backend database layer as ASE 12
> can
> > parse or store XML. For your XML data, you can either deal with it in
> > EAServer or Sybase ASE 12.
> >
> > Bill Z.
> >
> > Nick N <nicksan@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
> > news:4msLTBQe$GA.223@forums.sybase.com...
> > > I need to decide what webserver to use. Basically what I want it a web
> > > server with native Sybase/Oracle connections with Java (Servlet, JSP,
> > Beans)
> > > and XML capabilities. I know that EAServer is made up of PowerDynamo and
> > > Jag. I'm wondering if it supports things that I need. Where does the
> java
> > > classes get deployed to? Jaguar? or File system? How about XML. I need
> to
> > > read data in XML and insert records into Sybase ASE...can EAServer help
> > me?
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > > Much
> > >
> > >
> >
> >

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