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EAServer vs Silverstream

4 posts in General Discussion (old) Last posting was on 2000-03-12 07:05:58.0Z
Stephen Barrett Posted on 2000-03-10 16:01:45.0Z
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From: "Stephen Barrett" <smb@mindspring.com>
Subject: EAServer vs Silverstream
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I was wondering if anyone had any opinions on which is better, EAServer or
SilverStream (Pros/Cons). Also, does anyone know any documents out on the
net anywhere that has this comparison. The reason I am asking is that we
have a major enterpise level application currently architected under
PB7/Oracle client/server. We are basically a PB and Oracle shop. We do
have some people with C++ and Java skills but not many. That is a pro for
the EAServer route, but we are willing to retrain and some want to.

TIA,
Stephen


Ken Hudson Posted on 2000-03-12 07:05:58.0Z
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Since you are already a PB shop and (I assume) you have existing PB apps
that you may want to convert to the web, then, it appears clear that EA
Studio is the way to go. Otherwise you will spend more time re-training
your staff to write Java as well as more time re-writing from scratch your
existing apps. Most of us don't have that kind of time.

Ken

"Stephen Barrett" <smb@mindspring.com> wrote in message
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> I was wondering if anyone had any opinions on which is better, EAServer or
> SilverStream (Pros/Cons). Also, does anyone know any documents out on the
> net anywhere that has this comparison. The reason I am asking is that we
> have a major enterpise level application currently architected under
> PB7/Oracle client/server. We are basically a PB and Oracle shop. We do
> have some people with C++ and Java skills but not many. That is a pro for
> the EAServer route, but we are willing to retrain and some want to.
>
> TIA,
> Stephen
>
>


Mark J. Pfeifer[TeamSybase] Posted on 2000-03-11 17:43:49.0Z
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From: Mark J. Pfeifer[TeamSybase] <see_msg@sprynet.com>
Subject: Re: EAServer vs Silverstream
Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2000 10:43:49 -0700
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In article <bf99uoqi$GA.111@forums.sybase.com>, smb@mindspring.com
says...

> I was wondering if anyone had any opinions on which is better, EAServer or
> SilverStream (Pros/Cons). Also, does anyone know any documents out on the
> net anywhere that has this comparison. The reason I am asking is that we
> have a major enterpise level application currently architected under
> PB7/Oracle client/server. We are basically a PB and Oracle shop. We do
> have some people with C++ and Java skills but not many. That is a pro for
> the EAServer route, but we are willing to retrain and some want to.

Stephen -

Sybase and SilverStream marketing should have white papers on the
differences between these two application servers. Give them a call and
see if you can get a hold of them. In addition, their might be some
papers on the web sites.

Dean is correct that that EAServer can support the C++, PB, and other
components, but is that what makes up an application server? Obviously
this gives EAServer a leg up on the others servers but is it a necessity?

I would not say that SilverStream, IBM, BEA, etc.. are simply web
applications. They all are can access components, most support the full
EJB 1.1. spec and Java 2 and offer reliability, scalability, etc... Just
depends on what you need to do.

In your case I see EAServer having an advantage as you can leverage your
PB skill set. You do not need to learn Java right away. You can create
business components in PB and have most types of clients access them.

If you want, drop me an e-mail and we can discuss some of your other
questions about how to proceed.

Mark
TeamSybase

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Dean Jones [Team Sybase] Posted on 2000-03-10 16:35:54.0Z
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From: "Dean Jones [Team Sybase]" <dean_no_spam_@powerobjects.com>
Subject: Re: EAServer vs Silverstream
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I like the openness of EAS. I can code in PB, Java or C/C++. I can host
ActiveX/COM.

jaguar offers, high availability, fault tolerance, connection cache,
security, object pooling, EJB.. and many more features.

The biggest difference in my mind is EAS is an application server, i.e., it
servers up components to any client. SilverStream is just a web application.

We have customers developing with Java, C and PB. We have customers with web
clients, ActiveX clients, PB clients. We have customers running Jaguar on NT
and on Unix. We have customers with client applications on NT and Unix. We
have customers with Database on NT, Unix and even a VAX.

My point... we have never once been slowed down by the statement "Sybase EAS
couldn't do that"

SilverStream does not support have of the things I mentioned.

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Stephen Barrett <smb@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:bf99uoqi$GA.111@forums.sybase.com...
> I was wondering if anyone had any opinions on which is better, EAServer or
> SilverStream (Pros/Cons). Also, does anyone know any documents out on the
> net anywhere that has this comparison. The reason I am asking is that we
> have a major enterpise level application currently architected under
> PB7/Oracle client/server. We are basically a PB and Oracle shop. We do
> have some people with C++ and Java skills but not many. That is a pro for
> the EAServer route, but we are willing to retrain and some want to.
>
> TIA,
> Stephen
>
>