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ASE 12 install on Win2k Server?

7 posts in Windows NT Last posting was on 2000-08-10 21:53:04.0Z
Frank Burleigh Posted on 2000-06-25 04:00:09.0Z
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Hello. I'm having all kinds of trouble installing 12 to a new Win2k
Server. In part the installer doesn't handle c:\program files\
correctly. Each time I try the install, the process doesn't seem to
complete in that shortcuts aren't created, a server isn't created, etc.
I'm trying again to c:\sybase to remove the path issue from the
scenario.

Issues I've run into:
1. c:\program files isn't handled by the installer.
2. The installer wants to replace msvcrt.dll with an old one, to which I
say no.
3. The installer asks about a "certificate." Our license is
administered centrally, so all I've got available to me right now is the
Authentication Code. I don't know if this is upsetting the installer or
not.

Just in case, does 11.9.2 work better with win2k than 12 seems to?

Thanks.
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Frank Burleigh
Indiana University School of Law
burleigh@indiana.edu


David Williamson Posted on 2000-08-10 21:48:47.0Z
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At Techwave I asked if Adaptive server had been certified for Win 2000 and
they said it had been certified in July. I haven't been able to find
anything officially stating this however. They also stated that there was a
problem with the menu entries being created.

Frank Burleigh wrote in message <395583C9.F6BB2F61@indiana.edu>...
>Hello. I'm having all kinds of trouble installing 12 to a new Win2k
>Server.


Andy Price Posted on 2000-08-10 21:53:04.0Z
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Yes, there is a problem but it is the stuff that kids can fix. It puts them
in the wrong place, but you can move them manually to where they should be.
If you upgrade from windows NT to 2000 with it already installed then this
is no problem of course. I've been running Sybase on Windows 2000 for a long
time now, and has been as stable as it was running under NT 4 with SP6a.

As for the official certification on 2000, I haven't heard anything. Maybe
we will be enlightened by someone : )

Andy

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Andy Price
Sybase Certified Professional - Adaptive Server DBA v12.0
Sybase Certified Associate - Adaptive Server DBA v12.0 & v11.5
Sybase Certified Associate - SQL Developer v11.5

"David Williamson" <dwilliam@usoe.k12.ut.us> wrote in message
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> At Techwave I asked if Adaptive server had been certified for Win 2000 and
> they said it had been certified in July. I haven't been able to find
> anything officially stating this however. They also stated that there was
a
> problem with the menu entries being created.
>
> Frank Burleigh wrote in message <395583C9.F6BB2F61@indiana.edu>...
> >Hello. I'm having all kinds of trouble installing 12 to a new Win2k
> >Server.
>
>


Henrik Bruun Posted on 2000-06-26 13:58:25.0Z
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Frank,

I'm as disappointed as you, but Sybase hasn't been certified (client or
server)
for Windows 2000 yet.

See my message thread from 6/18 (Open Client & Windows 2000....)

Henrik


Frank Burleigh Posted on 2000-06-26 15:23:11.0Z
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I've made progress on the ASE 12 install. I've found that letting it
install to c:\sybase makes the installer happy, though it still doesn't
create any shortcuts.

After having gone through the process a few times I'd identify these as
the outstanding install issues:

1. Should be able to handle "program files" but can't.
2. Asking to replace a new msvcrt.dll.
3. No shortcuts
4. Parts of the installer don't pay attention to what I tell it. For
example, in the PC Client install I turn almost everything off (since
the ASE install already did much of that work) but the installer still
asks if I want to reinstall this, reinstall that, even though I've not
told it to install these already-installed things.

So far the software seems to perform as expected.

Henrik Bruun wrote:
>
> Frank,
>
> I'm as disappointed as you, but Sybase hasn't been certified (client or
> server)
> for Windows 2000 yet.
>
> See my message thread from 6/18 (Open Client & Windows 2000....)
>
> Henrik

--
Frank Burleigh
Indiana University School of Law
burleigh@indiana.edu


Andy Price Posted on 2000-06-28 10:24:10.0Z
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Guys,

Here is my experience of v12:

1. In the instructions it says that it cannot accept an installation path
with spaces in it, hence your "program files" problem, so installing it to a
root directory of sybase is the best idea and then there is no problem.

2. If it asks to replace any DLL, say NO.

3. If you are using a non-English(US) system, such as french, you won't see
the shortcuts but they have been created. For example, if french the start
is 'Demarrier' but Sybase places the shortcuts under Start/program files/
etc, so you will have to move them manually using windows explorer. It's a
simple operation.

4. If you don't want it reinstalled, say No All. Parts of the install are
required libraries, and it will replace by default no matter whether you've
installed it before or not. I guess this is a safeguard on the assumption
that if you are reinstalling then something must have gone pair-shaped.

I have been using v12 with the HA clustering option (a living nightmare
initially), but it is working in production with no problems. Rep Server
works no problems across a cluster to a non-cluster machine.


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Andy Price
Sybase Certified Adaptive Server Administrator - Associate v11.5

"Frank Burleigh" <burleigh@indiana.edu> wrote in message
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> I've made progress on the ASE 12 install. I've found that letting it
> install to c:\sybase makes the installer happy, though it still doesn't
> create any shortcuts.
>
> After having gone through the process a few times I'd identify these as
> the outstanding install issues:
>
> 1. Should be able to handle "program files" but can't.
> 2. Asking to replace a new msvcrt.dll.
> 3. No shortcuts
> 4. Parts of the installer don't pay attention to what I tell it. For
> example, in the PC Client install I turn almost everything off (since
> the ASE install already did much of that work) but the installer still
> asks if I want to reinstall this, reinstall that, even though I've not
> told it to install these already-installed things.
>
> So far the software seems to perform as expected.
>
> Henrik Bruun wrote:
> >
> > Frank,
> >
> > I'm as disappointed as you, but Sybase hasn't been certified (client or
> > server)
> > for Windows 2000 yet.
> >
> > See my message thread from 6/18 (Open Client & Windows 2000....)
> >
> > Henrik
>
> --
> Frank Burleigh
> Indiana University School of Law
> burleigh@indiana.edu


Andy Price Posted on 2000-06-28 10:27:10.0Z
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For point 3, also check that you have local admin rights on the machine you
are installing the client on, or it won't update the registry. that means no
program groups, environment setting and, of course, registry changes. This
is another reason for number 3 (see below). See my original post for answers
to all the other questions.

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Andy Price
Sybase Certified Adaptive Server Administrator - Associate v11.5

"Frank Burleigh" <burleigh@indiana.edu> wrote in message
news:3957755F.8533D646@indiana.edu...
> I've made progress on the ASE 12 install. I've found that letting it
> install to c:\sybase makes the installer happy, though it still doesn't
> create any shortcuts.
>
> After having gone through the process a few times I'd identify these as
> the outstanding install issues:
>
> 1. Should be able to handle "program files" but can't.
> 2. Asking to replace a new msvcrt.dll.
> 3. No shortcuts
> 4. Parts of the installer don't pay attention to what I tell it. For
> example, in the PC Client install I turn almost everything off (since
> the ASE install already did much of that work) but the installer still
> asks if I want to reinstall this, reinstall that, even though I've not
> told it to install these already-installed things.
>
> So far the software seems to perform as expected.
>
> Henrik Bruun wrote:
> >
> > Frank,
> >
> > I'm as disappointed as you, but Sybase hasn't been certified (client or
> > server)
> > for Windows 2000 yet.
> >
> > See my message thread from 6/18 (Open Client & Windows 2000....)
> >
> > Henrik
>
> --
> Frank Burleigh
> Indiana University School of Law
> burleigh@indiana.edu