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A better ISQL tool

6 posts in Product Futures Discussion Last posting was on 2003-01-04 03:07:09.0Z
Gökhan Demir Posted on 2002-12-02 11:53:02.0Z
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Hi all,

Recently I used Microsoft's Query Analyzer tool and found it beautiful.
Sybase has currently re-associated SQL Advantage (which I like either)
with ASE packages but, this tool is much far behing Microsoft's Query
Analyzer tool. Sybase should invest some time for its ISQL tool in my
opinion.

Features I would like to see in SQL Advantage is:
1. A compiled windows-HTML help file, or a native windows help file
with:
a) T-SQL help
b) System Administration help
2. Syntax coloring
3. A graphical showplan results window
4. An object browser with chance to immediate editting
5. An integrated debug tool

Thanks for taking into account.

Gökhan Demir


Wolfgang Kunk Posted on 2002-12-03 12:03:08.0Z
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I agree that Sybase should deliver a better isql tool.

SQL Advantage is OK so far, but I hate it that sessions and results are
seperated windows.
I know an old Microsoft tool (isql/w) which joins query window, result
window and E/A-statistic window into one tabbed window. I like this feature.

Regards
Wolfgang Kunk



Gökhan Demir schrieb:

>Hi all,
>
>Recently I used Microsoft's Query Analyzer tool and found it beautiful.
>Sybase has currently re-associated SQL Advantage (which I like either)
>with ASE packages but, this tool is much far behing Microsoft's Query
>Analyzer tool. Sybase should invest some time for its ISQL tool in my
>opinion.
>
>Features I would like to see in SQL Advantage is:
>1. A compiled windows-HTML help file, or a native windows help file
>with:
> a) T-SQL help
> b) System Administration help
>2. Syntax coloring
>3. A graphical showplan results window
>4. An object browser with chance to immediate editting
>5. An integrated debug tool
>
>Thanks for taking into account.
>
>Gökhan Demir
>
>


Jason L. Froebe Posted on 2002-12-30 04:15:51.0Z
From: Jason L. Froebe <jfroebe@froebe.net>
Subject: Re: A better ISQL tool
Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2002 22:15:51 -0600
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In article <3DEC9D7C.6040807@rtl.de>, wolfgang.kunk@rtl.de says...

> I agree that Sybase should deliver a better isql tool.
>
> SQL Advantage is OK so far, but I hate it that sessions and results are
> seperated windows.
> I know an old Microsoft tool (isql/w) which joins query window, result
> window and E/A-statistic window into one tabbed window. I like this feature.
>
> Regards
> Wolfgang Kunk

What? And join us in the 21st century? We are still waiting for Sybase
to get Sybase plugins to work on the pitiful Sybase Central! I don't
know about you, but I am tired of having to run multiple copies of
Sybase Central (Java & Win32 based) just because Sybase can not get the
plugins to work together within a single Sybase Central (Java based OR
win32 based).

jason


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Anthony Mandic Posted on 2002-12-30 11:29:40.0Z
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"Jason L. Froebe" wrote:

> What? And join us in the 21st century? We are still waiting for Sybase
> to get Sybase plugins to work on the pitiful Sybase Central!

I've always viewed SC as the poor man's tool. Something to
fall back on when you can't afford DBArtisan or don't like
the freeware tools.

> I don't know about you, but I am tired of having to run multiple copies of
> Sybase Central (Java & Win32 based) just because Sybase can not get the
> plugins to work together within a single Sybase Central (Java based OR
> win32 based).

Perhaps they should release an API for it and let people develop
their own plugins.

-am © 2002


Jason L. Froebe Posted on 2002-12-30 14:32:20.0Z
From: Jason L. Froebe <jfroebe@froebe.net>
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In article <3E102E24.BEE82D89@start.com.au>, am_is_not@start.com.au
says...

> "Jason L. Froebe" wrote:
>
> > What? And join us in the 21st century? We are still waiting for Sybase
> > to get Sybase plugins to work on the pitiful Sybase Central!
>
> I've always viewed SC as the poor man's tool. Something to
> fall back on when you can't afford DBArtisan or don't like
> the freeware tools.

Regardless of how we view Sybase Central, it is a big stinking pile of
you-know-what until it actually works correctly.

>
> > I don't know about you, but I am tired of having to run multiple copies of
> > Sybase Central (Java & Win32 based) just because Sybase can not get the
> > plugins to work together within a single Sybase Central (Java based OR
> > win32 based).
>
> Perhaps they should release an API for it and let people develop
> their own plugins.
>
> -am © 2002

I'm not sure if you are serious or not. Many people are still waiting
on the BackupServer API to be released.

jason

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Anthony Mandic Posted on 2003-01-04 03:07:09.0Z
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"Jason L. Froebe" wrote:

> Regardless of how we view Sybase Central, it is a big stinking pile of
> you-know-what until it actually works correctly.

Perhaps. I seldom use it so I can't really say.

> > Perhaps they should release an API for it and let people develop
> > their own plugins.
>
> I'm not sure if you are serious or not. Many people are still waiting
> on the BackupServer API to be released.

I understand the BS API was only ever intended for third party
vendors. There was some discussion a while back about open sourcing
a product from Sybase. Not sure what now. Perhaps one of the
Java programs.

-am © 2003