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Web-based software product

7 posts in Appeon (partner product) Last posting was on 2004-09-17 23:23:45.0Z
J Pastor Posted on 2004-09-15 14:46:33.0Z
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We are developing a new commercial product and are selecting the tools we
would like to do it in.

We have good experience in PB so we would like to use that if at all
possible.

The goal is to make a client-server and a web-based offering of our product
that will be sold and deployed to many different customers with many
different hardware/software configurations.

Is Appeon well suited for this from a technical and from a cost standpoint?

Thanks,
Jeff


Rex Geissler Posted on 2004-09-16 00:04:09.0Z
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Yes, Appeon is perfect for building new applications to be sold as both web
apps and client/server apps. Appeon can support 100% conversion to the web
for new web apps as long as you simply watch for any unsupported features
upfront. Or use the Appeon Global Function appeongetclienttype() to
determine whether you are running on the Web or on C/S and have differing
functionality as is desired.

Regards, Rex

"J Pastor" <jpastor@rcn.com> wrote in message
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> We are developing a new commercial product and are selecting the tools we
> would like to do it in.
>
> We have good experience in PB so we would like to use that if at all
> possible.
>
> The goal is to make a client-server and a web-based offering of our
product
> that will be sold and deployed to many different customers with many
> different hardware/software configurations.
>
> Is Appeon well suited for this from a technical and from a cost
standpoint?
>
> Thanks,
> Jeff
>
>


Armeen Mazda Posted on 2004-09-16 03:09:15.0Z
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Jeff,

Appeon is excellent tool for building new J2EE-based Web applications. You
only need your existing PowerBuilder skills and thus get much better
productivity than typical JSP authoring tools - in fact at least 4 times
better! You can read more about Appeon productivity at
http://www.appeon.net/petworld/ Also, Appeon simplifies your development
projects significantly and cuts down additional workload because you only
need one code-base to deploy to both client/server and Web.

Appeon produces Web applications with a rich PowerBuilder-style user
interface that no typical Web development tool can match. The rich UI will
give your customers higher productivity and satisfaction with your product,
which is excellent way to differentiate your offering from others. You can
see a live demo at http://www.try.sybase.com/demo/appeon/index.shtml

Appeon Web applications deploy to a J2EE application server, which is cross
platform, and also support dominant Web browsers. For the server-side,
Appeon currently supports Windows and we are working on Unix support - in
fact it is already working in our labs. At the client-side, only HTML,
JavaScript, and XML is downloaded, which is compatible with Internet
Explorer that has somewhere around 95% of the market. So Appeon Web
applications can deploy to virtually any hardware/software configuration.

Regards,
Armeen Mazda
Appeon Corporation

"J Pastor" <jpastor@rcn.com> wrote in message
news:414855c9$1@forums-1-dub...
> We are developing a new commercial product and are selecting the tools we
> would like to do it in.
>
> We have good experience in PB so we would like to use that if at all
> possible.
>
> The goal is to make a client-server and a web-based offering of our
product
> that will be sold and deployed to many different customers with many
> different hardware/software configurations.
>
> Is Appeon well suited for this from a technical and from a cost
standpoint?
>
> Thanks,
> Jeff
>
>


Mark Maslow Posted on 2004-09-16 16:51:18.0Z
From: Mark Maslow <mark.maslow@sierraclub.org>
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I wonder where the statement that IE has 95% of the market comes from.

The statistics for our public website show IE users making up only about
73% of our visitors. And I suspect that number may shrink somewhat in
the near future.

Mark Maslow

In article <41490597@forums-2-dub>, armeen.mazda@appeon.net says...
At the client-side, only HTML,

> JavaScript, and XML is downloaded, which is compatible with Internet
> Explorer that has somewhere around 95% of the market. So Appeon Web
> applications can deploy to virtually any hardware/software configuration.
>


Mark Maslow Posted on 2004-09-17 01:11:59.0Z
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Hmm... It's not exactly clear how they figure "market share". When I
look at the log file summary of some 3 million visits to our public
website over the past 6 months I see something quite different. But I
suppose its possible that the people who access our site are highly
unusual.

Mark Maslow

In article <414a2d5c@forums-2-dub>, armeen.mazda@appeon.net says...

> Mark,
>
> As of June 6, 2004, the exact number was 94.73%. IE has held around 95%
> market share for the last 2 years. You can find such information in this
> recent article from InfoWorld:
> http://www.infoworld.com/article/04/07/12/HNielosesshare_1.html
>
> Regards,
> Armeen
>
> "Mark Maslow" <mark.maslow@sierraclub.org> wrote in message
> news:MPG.1bb36186b698a1d39897b6@forums.sybase.com...
> > I wonder where the statement that IE has 95% of the market comes from.
> >
> > The statistics for our public website show IE users making up only about
> > 73% of our visitors. And I suspect that number may shrink somewhat in
> > the near future.
> >
> > Mark Maslow
> >
> > In article <41490597@forums-2-dub>, armeen.mazda@appeon.net says...
> > At the client-side, only HTML,
> > > JavaScript, and XML is downloaded, which is compatible with Internet
> > > Explorer that has somewhere around 95% of the market. So Appeon Web
> > > applications can deploy to virtually any hardware/software
> configuration.
> > >
>
>
>


Rex Geissler Posted on 2004-09-17 17:30:14.0Z
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Hi Mark,

I have 4 public Internet websites and over the past 3 years they
consistently show the public customers using Windows PCs 94%-98% of the time
and IE Browsers 93%-95% of the time.

Regards, Rex

"Mark Maslow" <mark.maslow@sierraclub.org> wrote in message
news:MPG.1bb3d6a2785358569897b7@forums.sybase.com...
> Hmm... It's not exactly clear how they figure "market share". When I
> look at the log file summary of some 3 million visits to our public
> website over the past 6 months I see something quite different. But I
> suppose its possible that the people who access our site are highly
> unusual.
>
> Mark Maslow
>
> In article <414a2d5c@forums-2-dub>, armeen.mazda@appeon.net says...
> > Mark,
> >
> > As of June 6, 2004, the exact number was 94.73%. IE has held around 95%
> > market share for the last 2 years. You can find such information in
this
> > recent article from InfoWorld:
> > http://www.infoworld.com/article/04/07/12/HNielosesshare_1.html
> >
> > Regards,
> > Armeen
> >
> > "Mark Maslow" <mark.maslow@sierraclub.org> wrote in message
> > news:MPG.1bb36186b698a1d39897b6@forums.sybase.com...
> > > I wonder where the statement that IE has 95% of the market comes from.
> > >
> > > The statistics for our public website show IE users making up only
about
> > > 73% of our visitors. And I suspect that number may shrink somewhat in
> > > the near future.
> > >
> > > Mark Maslow
> > >
> > > In article <41490597@forums-2-dub>, armeen.mazda@appeon.net says...
> > > At the client-side, only HTML,
> > > > JavaScript, and XML is downloaded, which is compatible with Internet
> > > > Explorer that has somewhere around 95% of the market. So Appeon Web
> > > > applications can deploy to virtually any hardware/software
> > configuration.
> > > >
> >
> >
> >


Mark Maslow Posted on 2004-09-17 23:23:45.0Z
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Very interesting - apparently the people who visit our website are,
indeed, a very unusual group.

Mark Maslow

In article <414b1f26$1@forums-1-dub>, Rex.Geissler@sybase.com says...

> Hi Mark,
>
> I have 4 public Internet websites and over the past 3 years they
> consistently show the public customers using Windows PCs 94%-98% of the time
> and IE Browsers 93%-95% of the time.
>
> Regards, Rex
>
>
> "Mark Maslow" <mark.maslow@sierraclub.org> wrote in message
> news:MPG.1bb3d6a2785358569897b7@forums.sybase.com...
> > Hmm... It's not exactly clear how they figure "market share". When I
> > look at the log file summary of some 3 million visits to our public
> > website over the past 6 months I see something quite different. But I
> > suppose its possible that the people who access our site are highly
> > unusual.
> >
> > Mark Maslow
> >
> > In article <414a2d5c@forums-2-dub>, armeen.mazda@appeon.net says...
> > > Mark,
> > >
> > > As of June 6, 2004, the exact number was 94.73%. IE has held around 95%
> > > market share for the last 2 years. You can find such information in
> this
> > > recent article from InfoWorld:
> > > http://www.infoworld.com/article/04/07/12/HNielosesshare_1.html
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Armeen
> > >
> > > "Mark Maslow" <mark.maslow@sierraclub.org> wrote in message
> > > news:MPG.1bb36186b698a1d39897b6@forums.sybase.com...
> > > > I wonder where the statement that IE has 95% of the market comes from.
> > > >
> > > > The statistics for our public website show IE users making up only
> about
> > > > 73% of our visitors. And I suspect that number may shrink somewhat in
> > > > the near future.
> > > >
> > > > Mark Maslow
> > > >
> > > > In article <41490597@forums-2-dub>, armeen.mazda@appeon.net says...
> > > > At the client-side, only HTML,
> > > > > JavaScript, and XML is downloaded, which is compatible with Internet
> > > > > Explorer that has somewhere around 95% of the market. So Appeon Web
> > > > > applications can deploy to virtually any hardware/software
> > > configuration.
> > > > >
> > >