Sybase NNTP forums - End Of Life (EOL)

The NNTP forums from Sybase - forums.sybase.com - are now closed.

All new questions should be directed to the appropriate forum at the SAP Community Network (SCN).

Individual products have links to the respective forums on SCN, or you can go to SCN and search for your product in the search box (upper right corner) to find your specific developer center.

Network Type detection

10 posts in General Discussion Last posting was on 2005-03-14 05:13:57.0Z
Sandeep Jain Posted on 2005-03-09 22:58:29.0Z
Reply-To: "Sandeep Jain" <sjain@kailaz.com>
From: "Sandeep Jain" <sjain@kailaz.com>
Newsgroups: ianywhere.public.mbusinessanywhere.general
Subject: Network Type detection
Lines: 18
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106
NNTP-Posting-Host: 62.173.81.130
X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 62.173.81.130
Message-ID: <422f7f95$1@forums-1-dub>
Date: 9 Mar 2005 14:58:29 -0800
X-Trace: forums-1-dub 1110409109 62.173.81.130 (9 Mar 2005 14:58:29 -0800)
X-Original-Trace: 9 Mar 2005 14:58:29 -0800, 62.173.81.130
Path: forums-1-dub!not-for-mail
Xref: forums-1-dub ianywhere.public.mbusinessanywhere.general:276
Article PK: 31448

Assuming that a particular device can sense the presence of a particular
network ex: GPRS, Wi-Fi, etc. how can a client sitting on a device
(m-business client or a custom client) switch from communicating via one
network to another.

Also, how is this (network type) communicated to the server side component
in case usage history needs to be recorded for.. maybe billing purposes.

I couldn't find this information in the HTTP headers of the request received
from m-business client.

I am relatively new to this area and would appreciate any pointers in the
right direction.

Thanks,
Sandeep


Greg Fenton Posted on 2005-03-09 23:20:45.0Z
From: Greg Fenton <greg.fenton_NOSPAM_@ianywhere.com>
Organization: iAnywhere Solutions Inc.
User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.6.3.2f (Windows/20041206)
X-Accept-Language: en-us, en
MIME-Version: 1.0
Newsgroups: ianywhere.public.mbusinessanywhere.general
Subject: Re: Network Type detection
References: <422f7f95$1@forums-1-dub>
In-Reply-To: <422f7f95$1@forums-1-dub>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: cpec2cdc91b1d31-cm000f212f9e50.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com
Message-ID: <422f84c7$1@forums-2-dub>
X-Original-Trace: 9 Mar 2005 15:20:39 -0800, cpec2cdc91b1d31-cm000f212f9e50.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com
Lines: 24
X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: forums-2-dub.sybase.com
X-Original-Trace: 9 Mar 2005 15:20:42 -0800, forums-2-dub.sybase.com
NNTP-Posting-Host: forums-master.sybase.com
X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: forums-master.sybase.com
Date: 9 Mar 2005 15:20:45 -0800
X-Trace: forums-1-dub 1110410445 10.22.108.75 (9 Mar 2005 15:20:45 -0800)
X-Original-Trace: 9 Mar 2005 15:20:45 -0800, forums-master.sybase.com
X-Authenticated-User: ngsysop
Path: forums-1-dub!not-for-mail
Xref: forums-1-dub ianywhere.public.mbusinessanywhere.general:278
Article PK: 31449


Sandeep Jain wrote:
> Assuming that a particular device can sense the presence of a particular
> network ex: GPRS, Wi-Fi, etc. how can a client sitting on a device
> (m-business client or a custom client) switch from communicating via one
> network to another.
>

I could be wrong about this, but I don't think there is anything in the
mBus client to control this. I suspect it is an OS-level thing.

I believe the mBus client simply asks to open a socket connection to the
mBus Sync Server and the OS services that request in whatever way it
deems best.

If I'm wrong about this, hopefully one of the MBA experts will let us know.

greg.fenton
--
Greg Fenton
Consultant, Solution Services, iAnywhere Solutions
--------
Visit the iAnywhere Solutions Developer Community
Whitepapers, TechDocs, Downloads
http://www.ianywhere.com/developer/


Sandeep Jain Posted on 2005-03-10 15:22:21.0Z
Reply-To: "Sandeep Jain" <sjain@kailaz.com>
From: "Sandeep Jain" <sjain@kailaz.com>
Newsgroups: ianywhere.public.mbusinessanywhere.general
References: <422f7f95$1@forums-1-dub> <422f84c7$1@forums-2-dub>
Subject: Re: Network Type detection
Lines: 50
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441
X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 193.118.251.61
Message-ID: <42306629@forums-2-dub>
X-Original-Trace: 10 Mar 2005 07:22:17 -0800, 193.118.251.61
X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: forums-2-dub.sybase.com
X-Original-Trace: 10 Mar 2005 07:22:18 -0800, forums-2-dub.sybase.com
NNTP-Posting-Host: forums-master.sybase.com
X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: forums-master.sybase.com
Date: 10 Mar 2005 07:22:21 -0800
X-Trace: forums-1-dub 1110468141 10.22.108.75 (10 Mar 2005 07:22:21 -0800)
X-Original-Trace: 10 Mar 2005 07:22:21 -0800, forums-master.sybase.com
X-Authenticated-User: ngsysop
Path: forums-1-dub!not-for-mail
Xref: forums-1-dub ianywhere.public.mbusinessanywhere.general:281
Article PK: 17630

Thanks for the quick response.
I agree that this has to be an OS level thing, probably in the network stack
manager. I couldn't see this information anywhere in m-business client
myself.

But I also believe there has to be an existing way of getting this
information from the OS, because applications will need to switch to
different networks seamlessly for Billing reasons ex: Wi-Fi access will be
cheaper than GPRS. So, why use GPRS, if Wi-Fi is detected.

iAnywhere itself has a new product called RFid anywhere, but I don't know if
it uses similar principles because it needs to detect only one type of
signal.

I am sure this sort of thing has been implemented somewhere. Any sort of
input on this would be great 'cause it might save a lot of people some
precious time.

Thanks,
Sandeep

"Greg Fenton" <greg.fenton_NOSPAM_@ianywhere.com> wrote in message
news:422f84c7$1@forums-2-dub...
> Sandeep Jain wrote:
> > Assuming that a particular device can sense the presence of a particular
> > network ex: GPRS, Wi-Fi, etc. how can a client sitting on a device
> > (m-business client or a custom client) switch from communicating via one
> > network to another.
> >
>
> I could be wrong about this, but I don't think there is anything in the
> mBus client to control this. I suspect it is an OS-level thing.
>
> I believe the mBus client simply asks to open a socket connection to the
> mBus Sync Server and the OS services that request in whatever way it
> deems best.
>
> If I'm wrong about this, hopefully one of the MBA experts will let us
know.
>
> greg.fenton
> --
> Greg Fenton
> Consultant, Solution Services, iAnywhere Solutions
> --------
> Visit the iAnywhere Solutions Developer Community
> Whitepapers, TechDocs, Downloads
> http://www.ianywhere.com/developer/


tony pigram Posted on 2005-03-10 16:54:51.0Z
Reply-To: "tony pigram" <tony.pigram@nospam.com>
From: "tony pigram" <tony.pigram@nospam.com>
Newsgroups: ianywhere.public.mbusinessanywhere.general
References: <422f7f95$1@forums-1-dub> <422f84c7$1@forums-2-dub> <42306629@forums-2-dub>
Subject: Re: Network Type detection
Lines: 86
Organization: iAnywhere Solutions
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1478
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478
X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: e01.pfizer.com
Message-ID: <42307bd6@forums-2-dub>
X-Original-Trace: 10 Mar 2005 08:54:46 -0800, e01.pfizer.com
X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: forums-2-dub.sybase.com
X-Original-Trace: 10 Mar 2005 08:54:47 -0800, forums-2-dub.sybase.com
NNTP-Posting-Host: forums-master.sybase.com
X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: forums-master.sybase.com
Date: 10 Mar 2005 08:54:51 -0800
X-Trace: forums-1-dub 1110473691 10.22.108.75 (10 Mar 2005 08:54:51 -0800)
X-Original-Trace: 10 Mar 2005 08:54:51 -0800, forums-master.sybase.com
X-Authenticated-User: ngsysop
Path: forums-1-dub!not-for-mail
Xref: forums-1-dub ianywhere.public.mbusinessanywhere.general:283
Article PK: 8811

Hi,

At present it is up to the user to choose the network that they use on the
PDA, this will then determine the TCP/IP connection to use.

MBiz Client will aim to use the existing TCP/IP connection on the device -
from a developer perspective you cannot choose the platform, if a w-fi
connection exists this is used, if a GPRS connection exists then this is
used.


RFIDAnywhere is a seperate product line to the MBusiness Anywhere product
line.


I'd highly recommend downloading and reading the PDFs for MBusiness Anywhere
located at:
http://www.ianywhere.com/developer/product_manuals/mbusiness_anywhere/index.html

You'll save yourself a lot of precious time by reading through these
documents and understanding the MBusiness Anywhere platform.

hope that helps.

thanks

tony pigram

"Sandeep Jain" <sjain@kailaz.com> wrote in message
news:42306629@forums-2-dub...
> Thanks for the quick response.
> I agree that this has to be an OS level thing, probably in the network
stack
> manager. I couldn't see this information anywhere in m-business client
> myself.
>
> But I also believe there has to be an existing way of getting this
> information from the OS, because applications will need to switch to
> different networks seamlessly for Billing reasons ex: Wi-Fi access will be
> cheaper than GPRS. So, why use GPRS, if Wi-Fi is detected.
>
> iAnywhere itself has a new product called RFid anywhere, but I don't know
if
> it uses similar principles because it needs to detect only one type of
> signal.
>
> I am sure this sort of thing has been implemented somewhere. Any sort of
> input on this would be great 'cause it might save a lot of people some
> precious time.
>
> Thanks,
> Sandeep
>
> "Greg Fenton" <greg.fenton_NOSPAM_@ianywhere.com> wrote in message
> news:422f84c7$1@forums-2-dub...
> > Sandeep Jain wrote:
> > > Assuming that a particular device can sense the presence of a
particular
> > > network ex: GPRS, Wi-Fi, etc. how can a client sitting on a device
> > > (m-business client or a custom client) switch from communicating via
one
> > > network to another.
> > >
> >
> > I could be wrong about this, but I don't think there is anything in the
> > mBus client to control this. I suspect it is an OS-level thing.
> >
> > I believe the mBus client simply asks to open a socket connection to the
> > mBus Sync Server and the OS services that request in whatever way it
> > deems best.
> >
> > If I'm wrong about this, hopefully one of the MBA experts will let us
> know.
> >
> > greg.fenton
> > --
> > Greg Fenton
> > Consultant, Solution Services, iAnywhere Solutions
> > --------
> > Visit the iAnywhere Solutions Developer Community
> > Whitepapers, TechDocs, Downloads
> > http://www.ianywhere.com/developer/
>
>


Sandeep Jain Posted on 2005-03-10 17:35:39.0Z
Reply-To: "Sandeep Jain" <sjain@kailaz.com>
From: "Sandeep Jain" <sjain@kailaz.com>
Newsgroups: ianywhere.public.mbusinessanywhere.general
References: <422f7f95$1@forums-1-dub> <422f84c7$1@forums-2-dub> <42306629@forums-2-dub> <42307bd6@forums-2-dub>
Subject: Re: Network Type detection
Lines: 109
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441
X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 193.118.251.61
Message-ID: <42308567$1@forums-2-dub>
X-Original-Trace: 10 Mar 2005 09:35:35 -0800, 193.118.251.61
X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: forums-2-dub.sybase.com
X-Original-Trace: 10 Mar 2005 09:35:36 -0800, forums-2-dub.sybase.com
NNTP-Posting-Host: forums-master.sybase.com
X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: forums-master.sybase.com
Date: 10 Mar 2005 09:35:39 -0800
X-Trace: forums-1-dub 1110476139 10.22.108.75 (10 Mar 2005 09:35:39 -0800)
X-Original-Trace: 10 Mar 2005 09:35:39 -0800, forums-master.sybase.com
X-Authenticated-User: ngsysop
Path: forums-1-dub!not-for-mail
Xref: forums-1-dub ianywhere.public.mbusinessanywhere.general:286
Article PK: 17638

Hi Tony,
Maybe I missed something in there, but do you have something specific in the
manual you want to direct me to?
Without that, your comment sounds more like a ridicule than advice, firstly
your assumption that I don't have any understanding of m-business anywhere.

The purpose of my question is also to find out how this can be done and not
just if m-business client does it. Perhaps I should post this question in
another more relevant newsgroup.

Thanks for your time,
Sandeep

"tony pigram" <tony.pigram@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:42307bd6@forums-2-dub...
> Hi,
>
> At present it is up to the user to choose the network that they use on the
> PDA, this will then determine the TCP/IP connection to use.
>
> MBiz Client will aim to use the existing TCP/IP connection on the device -
> from a developer perspective you cannot choose the platform, if a w-fi
> connection exists this is used, if a GPRS connection exists then this is
> used.
>
>
> RFIDAnywhere is a seperate product line to the MBusiness Anywhere product
> line.
>
>
> I'd highly recommend downloading and reading the PDFs for MBusiness
Anywhere
> located at:
>
http://www.ianywhere.com/developer/product_manuals/mbusiness_anywhere/index.html
>
> You'll save yourself a lot of precious time by reading through these
> documents and understanding the MBusiness Anywhere platform.
>
> hope that helps.
>
> thanks
>
> tony pigram
>
> "Sandeep Jain" <sjain@kailaz.com> wrote in message
> news:42306629@forums-2-dub...
> > Thanks for the quick response.
> > I agree that this has to be an OS level thing, probably in the network
> stack
> > manager. I couldn't see this information anywhere in m-business client
> > myself.
> >
> > But I also believe there has to be an existing way of getting this
> > information from the OS, because applications will need to switch to
> > different networks seamlessly for Billing reasons ex: Wi-Fi access will
be
> > cheaper than GPRS. So, why use GPRS, if Wi-Fi is detected.
> >
> > iAnywhere itself has a new product called RFid anywhere, but I don't
know
> if
> > it uses similar principles because it needs to detect only one type of
> > signal.
> >
> > I am sure this sort of thing has been implemented somewhere. Any sort of
> > input on this would be great 'cause it might save a lot of people some
> > precious time.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Sandeep
> >
> > "Greg Fenton" <greg.fenton_NOSPAM_@ianywhere.com> wrote in message
> > news:422f84c7$1@forums-2-dub...
> > > Sandeep Jain wrote:
> > > > Assuming that a particular device can sense the presence of a
> particular
> > > > network ex: GPRS, Wi-Fi, etc. how can a client sitting on a device
> > > > (m-business client or a custom client) switch from communicating via
> one
> > > > network to another.
> > > >
> > >
> > > I could be wrong about this, but I don't think there is anything in
the
> > > mBus client to control this. I suspect it is an OS-level thing.
> > >
> > > I believe the mBus client simply asks to open a socket connection to
the
> > > mBus Sync Server and the OS services that request in whatever way it
> > > deems best.
> > >
> > > If I'm wrong about this, hopefully one of the MBA experts will let us
> > know.
> > >
> > > greg.fenton
> > > --
> > > Greg Fenton
> > > Consultant, Solution Services, iAnywhere Solutions
> > > --------
> > > Visit the iAnywhere Solutions Developer Community
> > > Whitepapers, TechDocs, Downloads
> > > http://www.ianywhere.com/developer/
> >
> >
>
>


tony pigram Posted on 2005-03-10 17:50:40.0Z
Reply-To: "tony pigram" <tony.pigram@nospam.com>
From: "tony pigram" <tony.pigram@nospam.com>
Newsgroups: ianywhere.public.mbusinessanywhere.general
References: <422f7f95$1@forums-1-dub> <422f84c7$1@forums-2-dub> <42306629@forums-2-dub> <42307bd6@forums-2-dub> <42308567$1@forums-2-dub>
Subject: Re: Network Type detection
Lines: 159
Organization: iAnywhere Solutions
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1478
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478
NNTP-Posting-Host: host81-130-96-152.in-addr.btopenworld.com
X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: host81-130-96-152.in-addr.btopenworld.com
Message-ID: <423088f0@forums-1-dub>
Date: 10 Mar 2005 09:50:40 -0800
X-Trace: forums-1-dub 1110477040 81.130.96.152 (10 Mar 2005 09:50:40 -0800)
X-Original-Trace: 10 Mar 2005 09:50:40 -0800, host81-130-96-152.in-addr.btopenworld.com
X-Authenticated-User: techsupp
Path: forums-1-dub!not-for-mail
Xref: forums-1-dub ianywhere.public.mbusinessanywhere.general:287
Article PK: 8813

Hi Sandeep,

no ridicule meat, apologies if that is what was interpreted.

This is a public newsgroup, where the level of expertise is not known by
people who post/answer queries - I know nothing about you therefore have no
idea of your level of experience or understanding of MBusiness Anywhere.

We're all just here to try and help each other out with problems/queries.

To your email, I was more focused on the point you raised:
">I am sure this sort of thing has been implemented somewhere."

I don't think this sort of thing would have been implemented due to the
points I raised in my response, ie. MBusiness Anywhere just uses the TCP/IP
connection, it doesn't really mind how the device got that connection.

There is a Javascript command

avantgo.isOnline()

that detects whether the device isOnline or not - this would determine if
there was a TCP/IP connection available.


Although, maybe you have raised a feature (GPRS/WiFi switching) that might
need to be fed back to the Product Manager of the MBusiness Anywhere
product, as it might be of some use to a wider audience in the future.


thanks

tony pigram

"Sandeep Jain" <sjain@kailaz.com> wrote in message
news:42308567$1@forums-2-dub...
> Hi Tony,
> Maybe I missed something in there, but do you have something specific in
the
> manual you want to direct me to?
> Without that, your comment sounds more like a ridicule than advice,
firstly
> your assumption that I don't have any understanding of m-business
anywhere.
>
> The purpose of my question is also to find out how this can be done and
not
> just if m-business client does it. Perhaps I should post this question in
> another more relevant newsgroup.
>
> Thanks for your time,
> Sandeep
>
> "tony pigram" <tony.pigram@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:42307bd6@forums-2-dub...
> > Hi,
> >
> > At present it is up to the user to choose the network that they use on
the
> > PDA, this will then determine the TCP/IP connection to use.
> >
> > MBiz Client will aim to use the existing TCP/IP connection on the
device -
> > from a developer perspective you cannot choose the platform, if a w-fi
> > connection exists this is used, if a GPRS connection exists then this is
> > used.
> >
> >
> > RFIDAnywhere is a seperate product line to the MBusiness Anywhere
product
> > line.
> >
> >
> > I'd highly recommend downloading and reading the PDFs for MBusiness
> Anywhere
> > located at:
> >
>
http://www.ianywhere.com/developer/product_manuals/mbusiness_anywhere/index.html
> >
> > You'll save yourself a lot of precious time by reading through these
> > documents and understanding the MBusiness Anywhere platform.
> >
> > hope that helps.
> >
> > thanks
> >
> > tony pigram
> >
> > "Sandeep Jain" <sjain@kailaz.com> wrote in message
> > news:42306629@forums-2-dub...
> > > Thanks for the quick response.
> > > I agree that this has to be an OS level thing, probably in the network
> > stack
> > > manager. I couldn't see this information anywhere in m-business client
> > > myself.
> > >
> > > But I also believe there has to be an existing way of getting this
> > > information from the OS, because applications will need to switch to
> > > different networks seamlessly for Billing reasons ex: Wi-Fi access
will
> be
> > > cheaper than GPRS. So, why use GPRS, if Wi-Fi is detected.
> > >
> > > iAnywhere itself has a new product called RFid anywhere, but I don't
> know
> > if
> > > it uses similar principles because it needs to detect only one type of
> > > signal.
> > >
> > > I am sure this sort of thing has been implemented somewhere. Any sort
of
> > > input on this would be great 'cause it might save a lot of people some
> > > precious time.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Sandeep
> > >
> > > "Greg Fenton" <greg.fenton_NOSPAM_@ianywhere.com> wrote in message
> > > news:422f84c7$1@forums-2-dub...
> > > > Sandeep Jain wrote:
> > > > > Assuming that a particular device can sense the presence of a
> > particular
> > > > > network ex: GPRS, Wi-Fi, etc. how can a client sitting on a device
> > > > > (m-business client or a custom client) switch from communicating
via
> > one
> > > > > network to another.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > I could be wrong about this, but I don't think there is anything in
> the
> > > > mBus client to control this. I suspect it is an OS-level thing.
> > > >
> > > > I believe the mBus client simply asks to open a socket connection to
> the
> > > > mBus Sync Server and the OS services that request in whatever way it
> > > > deems best.
> > > >
> > > > If I'm wrong about this, hopefully one of the MBA experts will let
us
> > > know.
> > > >
> > > > greg.fenton
> > > > --
> > > > Greg Fenton
> > > > Consultant, Solution Services, iAnywhere Solutions
> > > > --------
> > > > Visit the iAnywhere Solutions Developer Community
> > > > Whitepapers, TechDocs, Downloads
> > > > http://www.ianywhere.com/developer/
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>


Sandeep Jain Posted on 2005-03-10 17:59:34.0Z
Reply-To: "Sandeep Jain" <sjain@kailaz.com>
From: "Sandeep Jain" <sjain@kailaz.com>
Newsgroups: ianywhere.public.mbusinessanywhere.general
References: <422f7f95$1@forums-1-dub> <422f84c7$1@forums-2-dub> <42306629@forums-2-dub> <42307bd6@forums-2-dub> <42308567$1@forums-2-dub> <423088f0@forums-1-dub>
Subject: Re: Network Type detection
Lines: 183
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441
X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 193.118.251.61
Message-ID: <42308b02$1@forums-2-dub>
X-Original-Trace: 10 Mar 2005 09:59:30 -0800, 193.118.251.61
X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: forums-2-dub.sybase.com
X-Original-Trace: 10 Mar 2005 09:59:31 -0800, forums-2-dub.sybase.com
NNTP-Posting-Host: forums-master.sybase.com
X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: forums-master.sybase.com
Date: 10 Mar 2005 09:59:34 -0800
X-Trace: forums-1-dub 1110477574 10.22.108.75 (10 Mar 2005 09:59:34 -0800)
X-Original-Trace: 10 Mar 2005 09:59:34 -0800, forums-master.sybase.com
X-Authenticated-User: ngsysop
Path: forums-1-dub!not-for-mail
Xref: forums-1-dub ianywhere.public.mbusinessanywhere.general:288
Article PK: 17637

Thanks Tony. I will explore further and feed any results I get on this back
into this newsgroup.
I think it would be a great feature to have in m-business anywhere.

-Sandeep

"tony pigram" <tony.pigram@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:423088f0@forums-1-dub...
> Hi Sandeep,
>
> no ridicule meat, apologies if that is what was interpreted.
>
> This is a public newsgroup, where the level of expertise is not known by
> people who post/answer queries - I know nothing about you therefore have
no
> idea of your level of experience or understanding of MBusiness Anywhere.
>
> We're all just here to try and help each other out with problems/queries.
>
> To your email, I was more focused on the point you raised:
> ">I am sure this sort of thing has been implemented somewhere."
>
> I don't think this sort of thing would have been implemented due to the
> points I raised in my response, ie. MBusiness Anywhere just uses the
TCP/IP
> connection, it doesn't really mind how the device got that connection.
>
> There is a Javascript command
>
> avantgo.isOnline()
>
> that detects whether the device isOnline or not - this would determine if
> there was a TCP/IP connection available.
>
>
> Although, maybe you have raised a feature (GPRS/WiFi switching) that might
> need to be fed back to the Product Manager of the MBusiness Anywhere
> product, as it might be of some use to a wider audience in the future.
>
>
> thanks
>
> tony pigram
>
> "Sandeep Jain" <sjain@kailaz.com> wrote in message
> news:42308567$1@forums-2-dub...
> > Hi Tony,
> > Maybe I missed something in there, but do you have something specific in
> the
> > manual you want to direct me to?
> > Without that, your comment sounds more like a ridicule than advice,
> firstly
> > your assumption that I don't have any understanding of m-business
> anywhere.
> >
> > The purpose of my question is also to find out how this can be done and
> not
> > just if m-business client does it. Perhaps I should post this question
in
> > another more relevant newsgroup.
> >
> > Thanks for your time,
> > Sandeep
> >
> > "tony pigram" <tony.pigram@nospam.com> wrote in message
> > news:42307bd6@forums-2-dub...
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > At present it is up to the user to choose the network that they use on
> the
> > > PDA, this will then determine the TCP/IP connection to use.
> > >
> > > MBiz Client will aim to use the existing TCP/IP connection on the
> device -
> > > from a developer perspective you cannot choose the platform, if a w-fi
> > > connection exists this is used, if a GPRS connection exists then this
is
> > > used.
> > >
> > >
> > > RFIDAnywhere is a seperate product line to the MBusiness Anywhere
> product
> > > line.
> > >
> > >
> > > I'd highly recommend downloading and reading the PDFs for MBusiness
> > Anywhere
> > > located at:
> > >
> >
>
http://www.ianywhere.com/developer/product_manuals/mbusiness_anywhere/index.html
> > >
> > > You'll save yourself a lot of precious time by reading through these
> > > documents and understanding the MBusiness Anywhere platform.
> > >
> > > hope that helps.
> > >
> > > thanks
> > >
> > > tony pigram
> > >
> > > "Sandeep Jain" <sjain@kailaz.com> wrote in message
> > > news:42306629@forums-2-dub...
> > > > Thanks for the quick response.
> > > > I agree that this has to be an OS level thing, probably in the
network
> > > stack
> > > > manager. I couldn't see this information anywhere in m-business
client
> > > > myself.
> > > >
> > > > But I also believe there has to be an existing way of getting this
> > > > information from the OS, because applications will need to switch to
> > > > different networks seamlessly for Billing reasons ex: Wi-Fi access
> will
> > be
> > > > cheaper than GPRS. So, why use GPRS, if Wi-Fi is detected.
> > > >
> > > > iAnywhere itself has a new product called RFid anywhere, but I don't
> > know
> > > if
> > > > it uses similar principles because it needs to detect only one type
of
> > > > signal.
> > > >
> > > > I am sure this sort of thing has been implemented somewhere. Any
sort
> of
> > > > input on this would be great 'cause it might save a lot of people
some
> > > > precious time.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Sandeep
> > > >
> > > > "Greg Fenton" <greg.fenton_NOSPAM_@ianywhere.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:422f84c7$1@forums-2-dub...
> > > > > Sandeep Jain wrote:
> > > > > > Assuming that a particular device can sense the presence of a
> > > particular
> > > > > > network ex: GPRS, Wi-Fi, etc. how can a client sitting on a
device
> > > > > > (m-business client or a custom client) switch from communicating
> via
> > > one
> > > > > > network to another.
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I could be wrong about this, but I don't think there is anything
in
> > the
> > > > > mBus client to control this. I suspect it is an OS-level thing.
> > > > >
> > > > > I believe the mBus client simply asks to open a socket connection
to
> > the
> > > > > mBus Sync Server and the OS services that request in whatever way
it
> > > > > deems best.
> > > > >
> > > > > If I'm wrong about this, hopefully one of the MBA experts will let
> us
> > > > know.
> > > > >
> > > > > greg.fenton
> > > > > --
> > > > > Greg Fenton
> > > > > Consultant, Solution Services, iAnywhere Solutions
> > > > > --------
> > > > > Visit the iAnywhere Solutions Developer Community
> > > > > Whitepapers, TechDocs, Downloads
> > > > > http://www.ianywhere.com/developer/
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>


Greg Fenton Posted on 2005-03-10 19:51:15.0Z
From: Greg Fenton <greg.fenton_NOSPAM_@ianywhere.com>
Organization: iAnywhere Solutions Inc.
User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.6.3.2f (Windows/20041206)
X-Accept-Language: en-us, en
MIME-Version: 1.0
Newsgroups: ianywhere.public.mbusinessanywhere.general
Subject: Re: Network Type detection
References: <422f7f95$1@forums-1-dub> <422f84c7$1@forums-2-dub> <42306629@forums-2-dub> <42307bd6@forums-2-dub> <42308567$1@forums-2-dub> <423088f0@forums-1-dub> <42308b02$1@forums-2-dub>
In-Reply-To: <42308b02$1@forums-2-dub>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: gfenton-t30.sybase.com
Message-ID: <4230a530$1@forums-2-dub>
X-Original-Trace: 10 Mar 2005 11:51:12 -0800, gfenton-t30.sybase.com
Lines: 22
X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: forums-2-dub.sybase.com
X-Original-Trace: 10 Mar 2005 11:51:13 -0800, forums-2-dub.sybase.com
NNTP-Posting-Host: forums-master.sybase.com
X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: forums-master.sybase.com
Date: 10 Mar 2005 11:51:15 -0800
X-Trace: forums-1-dub 1110484275 10.22.108.75 (10 Mar 2005 11:51:15 -0800)
X-Original-Trace: 10 Mar 2005 11:51:15 -0800, forums-master.sybase.com
X-Authenticated-User: ngsysop
Path: forums-1-dub!not-for-mail
Xref: forums-1-dub ianywhere.public.mbusinessanywhere.general:290
Article PK: 8814


Sandeep Jain wrote:
> Thanks Tony. I will explore further and feed any results I get on this back
> into this newsgroup.
> I think it would be a great feature to have in m-business anywhere.
>

I'd be happy to hear about *any* product or device that automatically
switches to another network based on some criteria. It sounds like one
of those features that is a no-brainer...but I've never heard of it in
use in consumer-products before.

Again, I strongly suspect this is something that the OS will have to
support and none of the OS'es mBus runs on are there yet from what I know.

greg.fenton
--
Greg Fenton
Consultant, Solution Services, iAnywhere Solutions
--------
Visit the iAnywhere Solutions Developer Community
Whitepapers, TechDocs, Downloads
http://www.ianywhere.com/developer/


Chris Grim Posted on 2005-03-14 02:48:42.0Z
User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.1.0.040913
Subject: Re: Network Type detection
From: Chris Grim <chrisgrim@hotmail.com>
Newsgroups: ianywhere.public.mbusinessanywhere.general
Message-ID: <BE5A3B84.406%chrisgrim@hotmail.com>
References: <422f7f95$1@forums-1-dub> <422f84c7$1@forums-2-dub> <42306629@forums-2-dub> <42307bd6@forums-2-dub> <42308567$1@forums-2-dub> <423088f0@forums-1-dub> <42308b02$1@forums-2-dub>
Mime-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit
X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: adsl-63-200-37-206.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
X-Original-Trace: 13 Mar 2005 18:48:40 -0800, adsl-63-200-37-206.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net
Lines: 23
X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: forums-2-dub.sybase.com
X-Original-Trace: 13 Mar 2005 18:48:40 -0800, forums-2-dub.sybase.com
NNTP-Posting-Host: forums-master.sybase.com
X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: forums-master.sybase.com
Date: 13 Mar 2005 18:48:42 -0800
X-Trace: forums-1-dub 1110768522 10.22.108.75 (13 Mar 2005 18:48:42 -0800)
X-Original-Trace: 13 Mar 2005 18:48:42 -0800, forums-master.sybase.com
X-Authenticated-User: ngsysop
Path: forums-1-dub!not-for-mail
Xref: forums-1-dub ianywhere.public.mbusinessanywhere.general:293
Article PK: 8816

Sandeep,

There are products that have solved this problem. NetMotion and Padcom (and
a few others, but these are the ones that I know customers have used) have
the ability to use the most appropriate network at the time a network
request is made. They also do a lot of other things. They operate below
applications, so there is no custom work for a particular application to
need to be able to take advantage of what they do.

Hope that helps,

Chris...

On 3/10/05 9:59 AM, in article 42308b02$1@forums-2-dub, "Sandeep Jain"

<sjain@kailaz.com> wrote:

> Thanks Tony. I will explore further and feed any results I get on this back
> into this newsgroup.
> I think it would be a great feature to have in m-business anywhere.
>
> -Sandeep
>