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2 nics

9 posts in Networking Last posting was on 2006-12-07 20:41:50.0Z
Filip Fransen Posted on 2006-12-05 22:13:31.0Z
From: "Filip Fransen" <filip.fransen@datsup.be>
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Subject: 2 nics
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I upgraded a client from ADS7.1 to 8.1.0.2
Server:
Windows 2003 Terminal server
2 nics with different ip adresses

I can open a table in arc or open the management console but after a few
seconds arc hangs ( connection is lost )
There are no errors reported in nt log. Ads log reports disconnection
All is done on the server
Everything was working fine on ads7.1
2 nic problem ??

Tia

Filip


Mark Wilkins Posted on 2006-12-06 16:05:13.0Z
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Hi Filip,

I wouldn't think that it would be an issue with multiple nics; I do not
think there were any substantive changes with respect to handling the
network addresses between those versions. However, shared memory
communications support was added in 8.x; I haven't heard of problems with
that, but that is the first thing that comes to mind.

Since you mention it is a terminal server, I assume you are connecting via a
terminal services session, which means that it would likely be using the new
shared memory communications. You could test to see if this is the problem
by disabling it. <disclaimer goes here about editing the registry> Add a
DWORD key named ALLOW_IPC_CONNECTIONS and set it to zero. The server must be
restarted for it to take affect. It goes in the same place as other ADS
config parameters:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\Advantage\Configuration

If this "fixes" the problem I will try to get some more information about
what is going on.

Mark Wilkins
Advantage R&D

"Filip Fransen" <filip.fransen@datsup.be> wrote in message
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>I upgraded a client from ADS7.1 to 8.1.0.2
> Server:
> Windows 2003 Terminal server
> 2 nics with different ip adresses
>
> I can open a table in arc or open the management console but after a few
> seconds arc hangs ( connection is lost )
> There are no errors reported in nt log. Ads log reports disconnection
> All is done on the server
> Everything was working fine on ads7.1
> 2 nic problem ??
>
> Tia
>
> Filip
>


"Filip Fransen" <filip.fransen Posted on 2006-12-06 19:41:14.0Z
From: "Filip Fransen" <filip.fransen@_nospam_datsup.be>
Newsgroups: Advantage.Networking
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After settings this, ads is running

Thx

Filip

"Mark Wilkins" <mark@no.email> wrote in message
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> Hi Filip,
>
> I wouldn't think that it would be an issue with multiple nics; I do not
> think there were any substantive changes with respect to handling the
> network addresses between those versions. However, shared memory
> communications support was added in 8.x; I haven't heard of problems with
> that, but that is the first thing that comes to mind.
>
> Since you mention it is a terminal server, I assume you are connecting via
> a terminal services session, which means that it would likely be using the
> new shared memory communications. You could test to see if this is the
> problem by disabling it. <disclaimer goes here about editing the
> registry> Add a DWORD key named ALLOW_IPC_CONNECTIONS and set it to zero.
> The server must be restarted for it to take affect. It goes in the same
> place as other ADS config parameters:
> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\Advantage\Configuration
>
> If this "fixes" the problem I will try to get some more information about
> what is going on.
>
> Mark Wilkins
> Advantage R&D
>
> "Filip Fransen" <filip.fransen@datsup.be> wrote in message
> news:4575ee11@solutions.advantagedatabase.com...
>>I upgraded a client from ADS7.1 to 8.1.0.2
>> Server:
>> Windows 2003 Terminal server
>> 2 nics with different ip adresses
>>
>> I can open a table in arc or open the management console but after a few
>> seconds arc hangs ( connection is lost )
>> There are no errors reported in nt log. Ads log reports disconnection
>> All is done on the server
>> Everything was working fine on ads7.1
>> 2 nic problem ??
>>
>> Tia
>>
>> Filip
>>
>
>


Mark Wilkins Posted on 2006-12-06 23:51:42.0Z
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Subject: Re: 2 nics
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Hi Filip,

This is rather puzzling. If I understand correctly, it sounds like
Advantage is deciding that the client has terminated, so it is logging out
the client. This normally means that it has not received any communications
from the client in the timeout period. But you say it times out in just a
few seconds. Even if the client is failing let the server know it is still
alive, this should take at least a couple of minutes.

What is the client timeout value configured at? You can see it in the
"Advantage Configuration Utility" under the Configuration Utility tab under
the Communications tab.

Mark Wilkins
Advantage R&D

"Filip Fransen" <filip.fransen@_nospam_datsup.be> wrote in message
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> After settings this, ads is running
>
> Thx
>
> Filip
> "Mark Wilkins" <mark@no.email> wrote in message
> news:4576e93e@solutions.advantagedatabase.com...


"Filip Fransen" <filip.fransen Posted on 2006-12-06 23:58:16.0Z
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Subject: Re: 2 nics
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10secs

Filip

"Mark Wilkins" <mark@no.email> wrote in message
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> Hi Filip,
>
> This is rather puzzling. If I understand correctly, it sounds like
> Advantage is deciding that the client has terminated, so it is logging out
> the client. This normally means that it has not received any
> communications from the client in the timeout period. But you say it
> times out in just a few seconds. Even if the client is failing let the
> server know it is still alive, this should take at least a couple of
> minutes.
>
> What is the client timeout value configured at? You can see it in the
> "Advantage Configuration Utility" under the Configuration Utility tab
> under the Communications tab.
>
> Mark Wilkins
> Advantage R&D
>
> "Filip Fransen" <filip.fransen@_nospam_datsup.be> wrote in message
> news:45771be3@solutions.advantagedatabase.com...
>> After settings this, ads is running
>>
>> Thx
>>
>> Filip
>> "Mark Wilkins" <mark@no.email> wrote in message
>> news:4576e93e@solutions.advantagedatabase.com...
>
>


"Filip Fransen" <filip.fransen Posted on 2006-12-07 00:18:42.0Z
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Subject: Re: 2 nics
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but I don't think I get to 10 secs before arc is hanging

Filip

"Filip Fransen" <filip.fransen@_nospam_datsup.be> wrote in message
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> 10secs
>
> Filip
>
> "Mark Wilkins" <mark@no.email> wrote in message
> news:45775693@solutions.advantagedatabase.com...
>> Hi Filip,
>>
>> This is rather puzzling. If I understand correctly, it sounds like
>> Advantage is deciding that the client has terminated, so it is logging
>> out the client. This normally means that it has not received any
>> communications from the client in the timeout period. But you say it
>> times out in just a few seconds. Even if the client is failing let the
>> server know it is still alive, this should take at least a couple of
>> minutes.
>>
>> What is the client timeout value configured at? You can see it in the
>> "Advantage Configuration Utility" under the Configuration Utility tab
>> under the Communications tab.
>>
>> Mark Wilkins
>> Advantage R&D
>>
>> "Filip Fransen" <filip.fransen@_nospam_datsup.be> wrote in message
>> news:45771be3@solutions.advantagedatabase.com...
>>> After settings this, ads is running
>>>
>>> Thx
>>>
>>> Filip
>>> "Mark Wilkins" <mark@no.email> wrote in message
>>> news:4576e93e@solutions.advantagedatabase.com...
>>
>>
>
>


Mark Wilkins Posted on 2006-12-07 17:56:07.0Z
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For test purposes, can you change the timeout to something larger such as 60
seconds? Are you able to open a table or do anything at all when IPC is
enabled? It is not clear to me if it is hanging during the connection
attempt or after it has connected and successfully communicated for a short
time. Changing the timeout to 60 seconds should make it clear if the server
is logging out the client after the timeout period or if the client is
simply not able to communicate at all.

Thanks,
Mark Wilkins
Advantage R&D

"Filip Fransen" <filip.fransen@_nospam_datsup.be> wrote in message
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> but I don't think I get to 10 secs before arc is hanging
>
> Filip
>


"Filip Fransen" <filip.fransen Posted on 2006-12-07 18:54:14.0Z
From: "Filip Fransen" <filip.fransen@_nospam_datsup.be>
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Now, I'm confused. After reinstalling Advantage everything is working
including IPC connections. I'm 100% sure I installed v8.1.0.2. I even used
the same downloaded installation zip.

Thx for your time.

Filip

"Mark Wilkins" <mark@no.email> wrote in message
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> For test purposes, can you change the timeout to something larger such as
> 60 seconds? Are you able to open a table or do anything at all when IPC
> is enabled? It is not clear to me if it is hanging during the connection
> attempt or after it has connected and successfully communicated for a
> short time. Changing the timeout to 60 seconds should make it clear if
> the server is logging out the client after the timeout period or if the
> client is simply not able to communicate at all.
>
> Thanks,
> Mark Wilkins
> Advantage R&D
>
>
> "Filip Fransen" <filip.fransen@_nospam_datsup.be> wrote in message
> news:45775cec@solutions.advantagedatabase.com...
>> but I don't think I get to 10 secs before arc is hanging
>>
>> Filip
>>
>
>


Mark Wilkins Posted on 2006-12-07 20:41:50.0Z
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Subject: Re: 2 nics
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Hmmm. I wonder if the problem was somehow related to permissions to the IPC
objects, and the client could not write to them or something. I don't see
how a reinstall would change it unless maybe it was installed under a
different account. Anyway, I'm glad it is working. The communications
through IPC are significantly faster, which in a terminal services
environment could make a pretty big difference depending on the
communications patterns.

Mark Wilkins
Advantage R&D

"Filip Fransen" <filip.fransen@_nospam_datsup.be> wrote in message
news:4578625c@solutions.advantagedatabase.com...
> Now, I'm confused. After reinstalling Advantage everything is working
> including IPC connections. I'm 100% sure I installed v8.1.0.2. I even used
> the same downloaded installation zip.
>
> Thx for your time.
>
> Filip