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Appeon 5 w/ PFC

4 posts in Appeon (partner product) Last posting was on 2007-07-12 02:17:38.0Z
Todd Dake Posted on 2007-07-10 13:54:13.0Z
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Hello All,

I have just joined a new project using Appeon 5, PB 10.5, EAS 5.3 and I seek
wisdom and enlightenment. I have lots of PB experience, little EAS, and no
Appeon so any advice/assistance is appreciated.

1. Does Appeon require a specific version of PFC?

2. Do I need seperate projects for JS and AX deployments?

3. Is there any other recommended sources of information to guide me on this
journey?

4. What technology is a must know to make this project successful?


Jim O'Neil [Sybase] Posted on 2007-07-10 15:57:45.0Z
From: "Jim O'Neil [Sybase]" <joneil@sybase.com>
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1. No. Appeon does provide a PFC-derivative called ACF that you are
recommended to use for pure-JavaScript deployments.

2. You need separate deployment profiled (within Appeon Developer).
What is prompting both a JavaScript and a Xcelerator deployment?
You'll find the Xclerator deployment will provide a much better
end-result. If you have to maintain both, then I would probably opt
for separate projects and PBLS - only because you'll need to likely
make adjustments to the JS version code to workaround unsupported
features, etc.

3. The Appeon documentation is quite extensive in terms of
documenting unsupported features and workarounds, and most of the
information you'll need is accessible from the Appeon Developer
toolbar and the unsupported feature analysis reports.

4. PowerBuilder <g>. It helps to understand a bit of EAServer to
some high-level, but the portion you have to know is pretty much
wizard-driven (mapping your transaction objects to connection caches).
Understanding how web applications work in general is useful when you
are troubleshooting, but if you don't run into any issues,
configuration problems, etc. you can get away with knowing only
PowerBuilder. Once you start tuning the application, you'll get more
into Web and Appeon specific settings, but that may or may not be
necessary depending upon your application needs.

On 10 Jul 2007 06:54:13 -0700, "Todd Dake"

<todd.dake@primarysolutions.net> wrote:

>Hello All,
>
>I have just joined a new project using Appeon 5, PB 10.5, EAS 5.3 and I seek
>wisdom and enlightenment. I have lots of PB experience, little EAS, and no
>Appeon so any advice/assistance is appreciated.
>
>1. Does Appeon require a specific version of PFC?
>
>2. Do I need seperate projects for JS and AX deployments?
>
>3. Is there any other recommended sources of information to guide me on this
>journey?
>
>4. What technology is a must know to make this project successful?
>


Todd Dake Posted on 2007-07-11 14:10:30.0Z
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In looking through the Appeon documentation on using the PFC I didn't see
the distinction between pure-JS and Xcelerator deployment. I also didn't
see this in the supported features guide for Xcelerator. Is the ACF just for
pure-JS deployment or will I need to utilize pieces of it for an Xcelerator
deployment. Is there any good reason that Appeon provides the ACF as a PFC
replacement rather than implementing it as an extension layer?

"Jim O'Neil [Sybase]" <joneil@sybase.com> wrote in message
news:bf9793hmito7ejn6rhcc5747p5ocho8oi6@4ax.com...
> 1. No. Appeon does provide a PFC-derivative called ACF that you are
> recommended to use for pure-JavaScript deployments.
>
> 2. You need separate deployment profiled (within Appeon Developer).
> What is prompting both a JavaScript and a Xcelerator deployment?
> You'll find the Xclerator deployment will provide a much better
> end-result. If you have to maintain both, then I would probably opt
> for separate projects and PBLS - only because you'll need to likely
> make adjustments to the JS version code to workaround unsupported
> features, etc.
>
> 3. The Appeon documentation is quite extensive in terms of
> documenting unsupported features and workarounds, and most of the
> information you'll need is accessible from the Appeon Developer
> toolbar and the unsupported feature analysis reports.
>
> 4. PowerBuilder <g>. It helps to understand a bit of EAServer to
> some high-level, but the portion you have to know is pretty much
> wizard-driven (mapping your transaction objects to connection caches).
> Understanding how web applications work in general is useful when you
> are troubleshooting, but if you don't run into any issues,
> configuration problems, etc. you can get away with knowing only
> PowerBuilder. Once you start tuning the application, you'll get more
> into Web and Appeon specific settings, but that may or may not be
> necessary depending upon your application needs.
>
> On 10 Jul 2007 06:54:13 -0700, "Todd Dake"
> <todd.dake@primarysolutions.net> wrote:
>
>>Hello All,
>>
>>I have just joined a new project using Appeon 5, PB 10.5, EAS 5.3 and I
>>seek
>>wisdom and enlightenment. I have lots of PB experience, little EAS, and
>>no
>>Appeon so any advice/assistance is appreciated.
>>
>>1. Does Appeon require a specific version of PFC?
>>
>>2. Do I need seperate projects for JS and AX deployments?
>>
>>3. Is there any other recommended sources of information to guide me on
>>this
>>journey?
>>
>>4. What technology is a must know to make this project successful?
>>


Jim O'Neil [Sybase] Posted on 2007-07-12 02:17:38.0Z
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If you search for ACF in the help document, you'll see the sections
have a header that states:

This workaround applies to: Pure-JavaScript deployment in all versions
Appeon Xcelerator deployment in pre-5.0 versions

I don't have a good handle on the history of the ACF, but I do know
that PFC in general is pretty intertwined. Since the goal was to have
a subset of PFC that contained fully supported features (for
JavaScript deployment), I can see where the approach of extracting
what's usable from PFC and patching the rest would be one way to go.

In general though, unless you have some very specific and stringent
requirements, I would go with the Xcelerator option only.

On 11 Jul 2007 07:10:30 -0700, "Todd Dake"

<todd.dake@primarysolutions.net> wrote:

>In looking through the Appeon documentation on using the PFC I didn't see
>the distinction between pure-JS and Xcelerator deployment. I also didn't
>see this in the supported features guide for Xcelerator. Is the ACF just for
>pure-JS deployment or will I need to utilize pieces of it for an Xcelerator
>deployment. Is there any good reason that Appeon provides the ACF as a PFC
>replacement rather than implementing it as an extension layer?
>
>
>
>"Jim O'Neil [Sybase]" <joneil@sybase.com> wrote in message
>news:bf9793hmito7ejn6rhcc5747p5ocho8oi6@4ax.com...
>> 1. No. Appeon does provide a PFC-derivative called ACF that you are
>> recommended to use for pure-JavaScript deployments.
>>
>> 2. You need separate deployment profiled (within Appeon Developer).
>> What is prompting both a JavaScript and a Xcelerator deployment?
>> You'll find the Xclerator deployment will provide a much better
>> end-result. If you have to maintain both, then I would probably opt
>> for separate projects and PBLS - only because you'll need to likely
>> make adjustments to the JS version code to workaround unsupported
>> features, etc.
>>
>> 3. The Appeon documentation is quite extensive in terms of
>> documenting unsupported features and workarounds, and most of the
>> information you'll need is accessible from the Appeon Developer
>> toolbar and the unsupported feature analysis reports.
>>
>> 4. PowerBuilder <g>. It helps to understand a bit of EAServer to
>> some high-level, but the portion you have to know is pretty much
>> wizard-driven (mapping your transaction objects to connection caches).
>> Understanding how web applications work in general is useful when you
>> are troubleshooting, but if you don't run into any issues,
>> configuration problems, etc. you can get away with knowing only
>> PowerBuilder. Once you start tuning the application, you'll get more
>> into Web and Appeon specific settings, but that may or may not be
>> necessary depending upon your application needs.
>>
>> On 10 Jul 2007 06:54:13 -0700, "Todd Dake"
>> <todd.dake@primarysolutions.net> wrote:
>>
>>>Hello All,
>>>
>>>I have just joined a new project using Appeon 5, PB 10.5, EAS 5.3 and I
>>>seek
>>>wisdom and enlightenment. I have lots of PB experience, little EAS, and
>>>no
>>>Appeon so any advice/assistance is appreciated.
>>>
>>>1. Does Appeon require a specific version of PFC?
>>>
>>>2. Do I need seperate projects for JS and AX deployments?
>>>
>>>3. Is there any other recommended sources of information to guide me on
>>>this
>>>journey?
>>>
>>>4. What technology is a must know to make this project successful?
>>>
>