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Software developed with Powerbuilder

9 posts in Commercial ISV's Last posting was on 2009-02-09 16:07:53.0Z
Ontsnapt Posted on 2008-04-07 12:05:40.0Z
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Does someone have one or more demo's of commercial application written
in powerbuilder.

I would like to see what they look like, how they work etc. Just to get
new (more) ideas about development.

Thanks
Eric


Derek Asirvadem Posted on 2008-04-07 12:10:10.0Z
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On 2008-04-07 22:05:40 +1000, Ontsnapt <ontsnapt@hotmail.com> said:

> Does someone have one or more demo's of commercial application written
> in powerbuilder.
>
> I would like to see what they look like, how they work etc. Just to get
> new (more) ideas about development.
>
> Thanks
> Eric

Yes, we have a very large Investment Mgmt app. The entire internal
client app is PB. The external (web-facing) app is EAServer/Java, and
FFS/Java. There is a "cut-down" version for brokers. What would you
like to know ?
--
Cheers
Derek
Senior Sybase DBA / Information Architect
Copyright © 2008 Software Gems Pty Ltd
Quality Standards = Zero Maintenance + Zero Surprises
Performance Standards = Predictability + Scaleability


Ontsnapt Posted on 2008-04-07 13:03:57.0Z
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I would like to see:

- what the screens look like
- how dddw are used
- color of the windows
- buttons used
- reports and possibility with the reports
- possibilities with export
- possibilities with printer settings
- Can user create their own reports and how is this done
- what can a user do when the report is displayed on the screen (for
example save as, filter, sort)
etc
etc

I know a lot is standard functionallity but I would like to get more ideas.



Thanks
Eric


Derek Asirvadem schreef:

> On 2008-04-07 22:05:40 +1000, Ontsnapt <ontsnapt@hotmail.com> said:
>
>> Does someone have one or more demo's of commercial application written
>> in powerbuilder.
>>
>> I would like to see what they look like, how they work etc. Just to
>> get new (more) ideas about development.
>>
>> Thanks
>> Eric
>
> Yes, we have a very large Investment Mgmt app. The entire internal
> client app is PB. The external (web-facing) app is EAServer/Java, and
> FFS/Java. There is a "cut-down" version for brokers. What would you
> like to know ?


Derek Asirvadem Posted on 2008-04-07 13:43:10.0Z
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> On 2008-04-07 23:03:57 +1000, Ontsnapt <ontsnapt@hotmail.com> said:
>
> I would like to see:
>
> - what the screens look like
> - how dddw are used
> - color of the windows
> - buttons used
> - reports and possibility with the reports
> - possibilities with export
> - possibilities with printer settings
> - Can user create their own reports and how is this done
> - what can a user do when the report is displayed on the screen (for
> example save as, filter, sort)
>
> I know a lot is standard functionallity but I would like to get more ideas.

Sorry. I was expecting questions like "how do you manage your PFCs".
As far as minor standards (for the above) go, there is no need to
interfere with them, since they are well established. Same with all
controls and short cuts. We simply use them. Where they do NOT exist,
we have our own.

As per another thread ("Reports", which I will not repeat), we do not
use PB for reports.

We use DWs extensively (only?). every grid (working window) is a DW,
every drop-down is a DW. Double click a line item on grid A, takes you
to a DW of grid A.1, etc. Standard buttons or Control click (gives you
an optional menu list of actions) appear on the detail or leaf level
window/DW. The app is a massive single integral tree of grids/DWs.
The security mechanism (Db permissions, not duplicated) identify
whether a button is active or grey. All transactions are sprocs (which
BTW can be executed from the PB client or the Java client). Button
equals sproc. The tree definiton (windows/DWs/grids and dependencies)
lives in three tables in the Db.

The PFC is stripped down for footprint and speed, only containing what
the app actually uses. The basic PFC is enhanced a bit, and has a few
classes added (eg. navigate directory).
--
Cheers
Derek
Senior Sybase DBA / Information Architect
Copyright © 2008 Software Gems Pty Ltd
Quality Standards = Zero Maintenance + Zero Surprises
Performance Standards = Predictability + Scaleability


M. Searer Posted on 2008-04-08 21:14:15.0Z
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we have a standard reporting subsystem that all of the reports (datawindows) run
through, including custom ones.
Of the report stuff you have listed, only filtering do we exclude. That is
because we can do some dynamic filtering in the security subsystem (which also
works on our reports) to filter out stuff that the user doesn't have read access
to.

One cool thing that is drop dead simple in pb, is to provide a summary button in
the preview screen. If the user clicks it, then the detail band height is set
to zero and the autosize height for that band is set off. Poof, summary report.
The key to this is to make sure you have something in the group bands and/or
summary bands that tell the user what the totals are for.

"Ontsnapt" <ontsnapt@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:47fa1bbd@forums-1-dub...
>I would like to see:
>
> - what the screens look like
> - how dddw are used
> - color of the windows
> - buttons used
> - reports and possibility with the reports
> - possibilities with export
> - possibilities with printer settings
> - Can user create their own reports and how is this done
> - what can a user do when the report is displayed on the screen (for example
> save as, filter, sort)
> etc
> etc
>
> I know a lot is standard functionallity but I would like to get more ideas.
>
>
>
> Thanks
> Eric
>
>
> Derek Asirvadem schreef:
>> On 2008-04-07 22:05:40 +1000, Ontsnapt <ontsnapt@hotmail.com> said:
>>
>>> Does someone have one or more demo's of commercial application written in
>>> powerbuilder.
>>>
>>> I would like to see what they look like, how they work etc. Just to get new
>>> (more) ideas about development.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Eric
>>
>> Yes, we have a very large Investment Mgmt app. The entire internal client
>> app is PB. The external (web-facing) app is EAServer/Java, and FFS/Java.
>> There is a "cut-down" version for brokers. What would you like to know ?


Randy Posted on 2008-04-07 18:47:06.0Z
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Eric,

You can visit our web site. All of our manuals are there in PDF format.
You can also download PowerPoint slid shows we use as training turtorials.
If you get bored with all of this, you can run the software and see what it
looks like, just follow the links on the various pages.

This is a version 10.5.2 application.

Randy

"Ontsnapt" <ontsnapt@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Does someone have one or more demo's of commercial application wr
> in powerbuilder.
>
> I would like to see what they look like, how they work etc. Just to get
> new (more) ideas about development.
>
> Thanks
> Eric


"Paul Horan[Sybase]" <phoran_remove Posted on 2009-02-06 15:21:01.0Z
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I was the Lead Architect for Video Communications in Springfield MA.
www.vcisolutions.com

Their STARS II+ app suite is PB10, SA9, EAServer 5.5

- No PFC. We used Progeny from Applied Knowledge (released in the PB4
timeframe, so it pre-dates the PFC, but it's still service-based. 6 PBLs.
Very fast and feature rich, and it's survived 5 version migrations intact.)

- We built our own report writer app in PB. Mostly because the data model is
so complex, we had to abstract out the basics for our users.

- No DDDWs at all. Our users HATED that feature, so we modeled something we
called a popupdropdown.
It's an edit field where you can type the primary key of the entity (sales
person, order, customer number, etc) and it fills in the corresponding
"description" (then stores the primary key field in a protected column). If
you enter the description, it does a wildcard search on that entity's
description field. If there's only one match, it gets selected and you move
on. If there is more than one match, a list window pops up and you scroll
down to select the match manually. If you just press crtl-F, we pop up the
list window with an additional "advanced search" panel and they can search
on other criteria besides description. All managed with a single service
class and two datawindows for each "entity".

- Standard buttonface windows and buttons. Color used only to indicate
specific conditions.

- Export feeds to other systems to XML with the datawindow SaveAs() feature
and XML templates. This predated SOA, so we hadn't embraced web services
before I left.

--
Paul Horan[Sybase]
paulhoran.pbdjmagazine.com

"Ontsnapt" <ontsnapt@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Does someone have one or more demo's of commercial application written in
> powerbuilder.
>
> I would like to see what they look like, how they work etc. Just to get
> new (more) ideas about development.
>
> Thanks
> Eric


Jeff Gibson Posted on 2009-02-09 15:56:39.0Z
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That's good stuff Paul,

We need more small stories like this from developers that have commercial
products out there in the use.

Didn't Sybase used to do info sheets on ISV type software that were
developed using PowerBuilder? Or was that iAnywhere?

Thanks again.

Jeff Gibson
Intercept Solutions - Sybase SQL Anywhere OEM Partner
Nashville, TN

"Paul Horan[Sybase]" <phoran_remove@remove_sybase.com> wrote in message
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>I was the Lead Architect for Video Communications in Springfield MA.
>www.vcisolutions.com
>
> Their STARS II+ app suite is PB10, SA9, EAServer 5.5
>
> - No PFC. We used Progeny from Applied Knowledge (released in the PB4
> timeframe, so it pre-dates the PFC, but it's still service-based. 6 PBLs.
> Very fast and feature rich, and it's survived 5 version migrations
> intact.)
>
> - We built our own report writer app in PB. Mostly because the data model
> is so complex, we had to abstract out the basics for our users.
>
> - No DDDWs at all. Our users HATED that feature, so we modeled something
> we called a popupdropdown.
> It's an edit field where you can type the primary key of the entity (sales
> person, order, customer number, etc) and it fills in the corresponding
> "description" (then stores the primary key field in a protected column).
> If you enter the description, it does a wildcard search on that entity's
> description field. If there's only one match, it gets selected and you
> move on. If there is more than one match, a list window pops up and you
> scroll down to select the match manually. If you just press crtl-F, we
> pop up the list window with an additional "advanced search" panel and they
> can search on other criteria besides description. All managed with a
> single service class and two datawindows for each "entity".
>
> - Standard buttonface windows and buttons. Color used only to indicate
> specific conditions.
>
> - Export feeds to other systems to XML with the datawindow SaveAs()
> feature and XML templates. This predated SOA, so we hadn't embraced web
> services before I left.
>
> --
> Paul Horan[Sybase]
> paulhoran.pbdjmagazine.com
>
> "Ontsnapt" <ontsnapt@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:47fa0e14$1@forums-1-dub...
>> Does someone have one or more demo's of commercial application written in
>> powerbuilder.
>>
>> I would like to see what they look like, how they work etc. Just to get
>> new (more) ideas about development.
>>
>> Thanks
>> Eric
>
>


M. Searer Posted on 2009-02-09 16:07:53.0Z
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WOW, imagine the goodwill from ISVs that Sybase would generate if it would do PDF info sheets on Powerbuilder developed software
that would be in a 'catalog' on sybase's website.

"Jeff Gibson" <jgibson@interceptsolutions.com> wrote in message news:49905237$1@forums-1-dub...
> That's good stuff Paul,
>
> We need more small stories like this from developers that have commercial products out there in the use.
>
> Didn't Sybase used to do info sheets on ISV type software that were developed using PowerBuilder? Or was that iAnywhere?
>
> Thanks again.
>
> Jeff Gibson
> Intercept Solutions - Sybase SQL Anywhere OEM Partner
> Nashville, TN
>
>
> "Paul Horan[Sybase]" <phoran_remove@remove_sybase.com> wrote in message news:498c555d@forums-1-dub...
>>I was the Lead Architect for Video Communications in Springfield MA. www.vcisolutions.com
>>
>> Their STARS II+ app suite is PB10, SA9, EAServer 5.5
>>
>> - No PFC. We used Progeny from Applied Knowledge (released in the PB4 timeframe, so it pre-dates the PFC, but it's still
>> service-based. 6 PBLs. Very fast and feature rich, and it's survived 5 version migrations intact.)
>>
>> - We built our own report writer app in PB. Mostly because the data model is so complex, we had to abstract out the basics for
>> our users.
>>
>> - No DDDWs at all. Our users HATED that feature, so we modeled something we called a popupdropdown.
>> It's an edit field where you can type the primary key of the entity (sales person, order, customer number, etc) and it fills in
>> the corresponding "description" (then stores the primary key field in a protected column). If you enter the description, it does
>> a wildcard search on that entity's description field. If there's only one match, it gets selected and you move on. If there is
>> more than one match, a list window pops up and you scroll down to select the match manually. If you just press crtl-F, we pop up
>> the list window with an additional "advanced search" panel and they can search on other criteria besides description. All
>> managed with a single service class and two datawindows for each "entity".
>>
>> - Standard buttonface windows and buttons. Color used only to indicate specific conditions.
>>
>> - Export feeds to other systems to XML with the datawindow SaveAs() feature and XML templates. This predated SOA, so we hadn't
>> embraced web services before I left.
>>
>> --
>> Paul Horan[Sybase]
>> paulhoran.pbdjmagazine.com
>>
>> "Ontsnapt" <ontsnapt@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:47fa0e14$1@forums-1-dub...
>>> Does someone have one or more demo's of commercial application written in powerbuilder.
>>>
>>> I would like to see what they look like, how they work etc. Just to get new (more) ideas about development.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Eric
>>
>>
>
>