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Customer License

6 posts in Commercial ISV's Last posting was on 2008-08-11 18:54:18.0Z
Ken Judkins Posted on 2008-08-06 17:11:34.0Z
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Hello,

For those who have done this before, where do you get the license agreement
to which the user must agree before installing the application? Did
everybody go to different lawyers to buy nearly the exact same agreement?
Is there a web site (LicensesRUs?) that has a fill-in form? Or did you just
copy the one from Office and cut 'n' paste your company name over
"Microsoft"?

Thanks!

Ken Judkins


M. Searer Posted on 2008-08-06 17:50:42.0Z
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it depends on your requirements and what it is worth to you.
I used a laywer.
there are templates that i've seen - contract edge (software) for example - that can be modified.

"Ken Judkins" <nospamplease@somewhere.com> wrote in message news:4899db46$1@forums-1-dub...
> Hello,
>
> For those who have done this before, where do you get the license agreement
> to which the user must agree before installing the application? Did
> everybody go to different lawyers to buy nearly the exact same agreement?
> Is there a web site (LicensesRUs?) that has a fill-in form? Or did you just
> copy the one from Office and cut 'n' paste your company name over
> "Microsoft"?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Ken Judkins
>
>


Breck Carter [sqlanywhere.blogspot.com] Posted on 2008-08-07 01:01:08.0Z
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I used the SQL Anywhere USA license agreement as a model... but yeah,
same idea... copy and paste... and I cut out a lot of weird stuff. The
only really important stuff IMO is the limitation of liability.

On 6 Aug 2008 10:11:34 -0700, "Ken Judkins"

<nospamplease@somewhere.com> wrote:

>Hello,
>
>For those who have done this before, where do you get the license agreement
>to which the user must agree before installing the application? Did
>everybody go to different lawyers to buy nearly the exact same agreement?
>Is there a web site (LicensesRUs?) that has a fill-in form? Or did you just
>copy the one from Office and cut 'n' paste your company name over
>"Microsoft"?
>
>Thanks!
>
>Ken Judkins
>

--
Breck Carter http://sqlanywhere.blogspot.com/

RisingRoad SQL Anywhere and MobiLink Professional Services
breck.carter@risingroad.com


Randy Posted on 2008-08-07 12:57:33.0Z
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Do be careful if you app ships with a database or encryption technology.
There are export restrictions. So, in addition to liability issues, there
are license transfer issues, runtime issues (PB and DB) plus any other
embedded software.

We used a lawyer.

Randy

"Ken Judkins" <nospamplease@somewhere.com> wrote in message
news:4899db46$1@forums-1-dub...
> Hello,
>
> For those who have done this before, where do you get the license
> agreement to which the user must agree before installing the application?
> Did everybody go to different lawyers to buy nearly the exact same
> agreement? Is there a web site (LicensesRUs?) that has a fill-in form? Or
> did you just copy the one from Office and cut 'n' paste your company name
> over "Microsoft"?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Ken Judkins
>
>


Ken Judkins Posted on 2008-08-11 13:13:27.0Z
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Randy,

I had not considered the encryption/export stuff.

Is there an export restriction on a basic PB runtime database?

As much as I would like to keep up-front costs down, a few hundred dollars
here might be necessary. I'd hate to sink everything based on this one
misstep before it all got started!

Ken

"Randy" <cgreenwellNOSPAMPlease@sparusa.com> wrote in message
news:489af13d$1@forums-1-dub...
> Do be careful if you app ships with a database or encryption technology.
> There are export restrictions. So, in addition to liability issues, there
> are license transfer issues, runtime issues (PB and DB) plus any other
> embedded software.
>
> We used a lawyer.
>
> Randy
>
> "Ken Judkins" <nospamplease@somewhere.com> wrote in message
> news:4899db46$1@forums-1-dub...
>> Hello,
>>
>> For those who have done this before, where do you get the license
>> agreement to which the user must agree before installing the application?
>> Did everybody go to different lawyers to buy nearly the exact same
>> agreement? Is there a web site (LicensesRUs?) that has a fill-in form?
>> Or did you just copy the one from Office and cut 'n' paste your company
>> name over "Microsoft"?
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Ken Judkins
>>
>>
>
>


Randy Posted on 2008-08-11 18:54:18.0Z
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Ken,

I am not a lawyer. So do not take anything I say as fact or base decisions
on it without doing your own research. Your best bet is to educate yourself.

Here is a useful link.

http://www.bis.doc.gov/licensing/exportingbasics.htm

I cannot speak specifically about anyone else's products, including Sybase's
PB or their SQL Anywhere database.

In most cases low technology software does not have a problem and you are
simply restricted from exporting it to those countries, organizations, or
people found in the lists kept by the Dept of Commerce. How you do this can
be as simple as a disclaimer or an attachment to your EULA. For example,
when you download an EBF from the Sybase web site, you are required to
accept their EULA and Export Restrictions by acknowledging them prior to
going to the download page.

Good luck
Randy

"Ken Judkins" <nospamplease@somewhere.com> wrote in message
news:48a03af7@forums-1-dub...
> Randy,
>
> I had not considered the encryption/export stuff.
>
> Is there an export restriction on a basic PB runtime database?
>
> As much as I would like to keep up-front costs down, a few hundred dollars
> here might be necessary. I'd hate to sink everything based on this one
> misstep before it all got started!
>
> Ken
>
>
>
> "Randy" <cgreenwellNOSPAMPlease@sparusa.com> wrote in message
> news:489af13d$1@forums-1-dub...
>> Do be careful if you app ships with a database or encryption technology.
>> There are export restrictions. So, in addition to liability issues, there
>> are license transfer issues, runtime issues (PB and DB) plus any other
>> embedded software.
>>
>> We used a lawyer.
>>
>> Randy
>>
>> "Ken Judkins" <nospamplease@somewhere.com> wrote in message
>> news:4899db46$1@forums-1-dub...
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> For those who have done this before, where do you get the license
>>> agreement to which the user must agree before installing the
>>> application? Did everybody go to different lawyers to buy nearly the
>>> exact same agreement? Is there a web site (LicensesRUs?) that has a
>>> fill-in form? Or did you just copy the one from Office and cut 'n' paste
>>> your company name over "Microsoft"?
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> Ken Judkins
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>