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VMware and Advantage

6 posts in Networking Last posting was on 2010-05-04 23:30:26.0Z
Jamie Jansen Posted on 2010-02-11 03:52:17.0Z
From: "Jamie Jansen" <jamiej@promotionaldesigns.com>
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Subject: VMware and Advantage
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So I've been using advantage 7.0 for quite sometime now, moved all servers
over to a virtual environment now using VMware vSphere 4. I have two hosts
and a iSCSI san. I have advantage on Server 2003, up to 30 clients can
connect at any given point throughout the day. I have been working with my
software vendor on speed issues with their software and advantage, i'm
starting to think that it might be something that I have configured...

Is there a recommend virtual network adapter better than the other for
advantage services?

After running perfmon for sometime i have come to the conclusion that Disk
queue is not the problem as this never gets above .2 when the system is
getting hit and averages around .02

I have dedicated 4 cpu's at 2.8 GHz to the machine and 2GB Ram. These
resources also seem to be doing fine.

Bandwitch on the network also seems to be fine, as all clients have are on a
gig switch connected with 3 uplinks to the gig switch where the vm
environment stays.

Please let me know if you have any ideas that could help.

Thanks,

Jamie


Josh Neider Posted on 2010-02-15 16:51:54.0Z
From: "Josh Neider" <jneider@sybase.com>
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Hi Jamie,

There are a couple different reasons performance can be slower in a VMWare
environment. You can refer to this Knowledgebase Item for more information:
http://devzone.advantagedatabase.com/dz/content.aspx?Key=17&RefNo=080407-2007

Regards

Josh Neider

"Jamie Jansen" <jamiej@promotionaldesigns.com> wrote in message
news:4b737e77@solutions.advantagedatabase.com...
> So I've been using advantage 7.0 for quite sometime now, moved all servers
> over to a virtual environment now using VMware vSphere 4. I have two
> hosts and a iSCSI san. I have advantage on Server 2003, up to 30 clients
> can connect at any given point throughout the day. I have been working
> with my software vendor on speed issues with their software and advantage,
> i'm starting to think that it might be something that I have configured...
>
> Is there a recommend virtual network adapter better than the other for
> advantage services?
>
> After running perfmon for sometime i have come to the conclusion that Disk
> queue is not the problem as this never gets above .2 when the system is
> getting hit and averages around .02
>
> I have dedicated 4 cpu's at 2.8 GHz to the machine and 2GB Ram. These
> resources also seem to be doing fine.
>
> Bandwitch on the network also seems to be fine, as all clients have are on
> a gig switch connected with 3 uplinks to the gig switch where the vm
> environment stays.
>
> Please let me know if you have any ideas that could help.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jamie
>


Jamie Jansen Posted on 2010-05-04 21:13:37.0Z
From: "Jamie Jansen" <jamiej@promotionaldesigns.com>
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Subject: Re: VMware and Advantage
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Thanks Josh.

I understand there can be performance issues with more connections, but for
30 clients with 4 cpus attached and the resources are hardly getting taxed
doesn't make any sense.

If resources were the problem i would add more, but because the resources
look fine, i'm inclined to think differently.

Thanks

Jamie

"Josh Neider" <jneider@sybase.com> wrote in message
news:4b797b31@solutions.advantagedatabase.com...
> Hi Jamie,
>
> There are a couple different reasons performance can be slower in a VMWare
> environment. You can refer to this Knowledgebase Item for more
> information:
> http://devzone.advantagedatabase.com/dz/content.aspx?Key=17&RefNo=080407-2007
>
> Regards
>
> Josh Neider
>
> "Jamie Jansen" <jamiej@promotionaldesigns.com> wrote in message
> news:4b737e77@solutions.advantagedatabase.com...
>> So I've been using advantage 7.0 for quite sometime now, moved all
>> servers over to a virtual environment now using VMware vSphere 4. I have
>> two hosts and a iSCSI san. I have advantage on Server 2003, up to 30
>> clients can connect at any given point throughout the day. I have been
>> working with my software vendor on speed issues with their software and
>> advantage, i'm starting to think that it might be something that I have
>> configured...
>>
>> Is there a recommend virtual network adapter better than the other for
>> advantage services?
>>
>> After running perfmon for sometime i have come to the conclusion that
>> Disk queue is not the problem as this never gets above .2 when the system
>> is getting hit and averages around .02
>>
>> I have dedicated 4 cpu's at 2.8 GHz to the machine and 2GB Ram. These
>> resources also seem to be doing fine.
>>
>> Bandwitch on the network also seems to be fine, as all clients have are
>> on a gig switch connected with 3 uplinks to the gig switch where the vm
>> environment stays.
>>
>> Please let me know if you have any ideas that could help.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Jamie
>>


Peter Gargos Posted on 2010-02-15 20:11:57.0Z
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 21:11:57 +0100
From: Peter Gargos <pgargos@atlas.cz>
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Hi Jamie,
what is your problem concretely ?

Peter


Jamie Jansen napsal(a):

> So I've been using advantage 7.0 for quite sometime now, moved all servers
> over to a virtual environment now using VMware vSphere 4. I have two hosts
> and a iSCSI san. I have advantage on Server 2003, up to 30 clients can
> connect at any given point throughout the day. I have been working with my
> software vendor on speed issues with their software and advantage, i'm
> starting to think that it might be something that I have configured...
>
> Is there a recommend virtual network adapter better than the other for
> advantage services?
>
> After running perfmon for sometime i have come to the conclusion that Disk
> queue is not the problem as this never gets above .2 when the system is
> getting hit and averages around .02
>
> I have dedicated 4 cpu's at 2.8 GHz to the machine and 2GB Ram. These
> resources also seem to be doing fine.
>
> Bandwitch on the network also seems to be fine, as all clients have are on a
> gig switch connected with 3 uplinks to the gig switch where the vm
> environment stays.
>
> Please let me know if you have any ideas that could help.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jamie
>
>


Jamie Jansen Posted on 2010-05-04 21:09:26.0Z
From: "Jamie Jansen" <jamiej@promotionaldesigns.com>
Newsgroups: advantage.networking
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Peter,
Sorry for the gap in responding.

We use a third party application which uses advantage, when the files are
copied locally and advantage is turned off the item lookups etc seem to work
fine, but when running on the server item lookup queries, etc are painfully
slow.

I am in the process of upgrading to version 9 which i have been told has
some network performance upgrades. With version 9 i am also going to move
this to server 2008 which i think should also help performance.

Jamie

"Peter Gargos" <pgargos@atlas.cz> wrote in message
news:4b79aa10@solutions.advantagedatabase.com...
> Hi Jamie,
> what is your problem concretely ?
>
> Peter
>
>
> Jamie Jansen napsal(a):
>> So I've been using advantage 7.0 for quite sometime now, moved all
>> servers
>> over to a virtual environment now using VMware vSphere 4. I have two
>> hosts
>> and a iSCSI san. I have advantage on Server 2003, up to 30 clients can
>> connect at any given point throughout the day. I have been working with
>> my
>> software vendor on speed issues with their software and advantage, i'm
>> starting to think that it might be something that I have configured...
>>
>> Is there a recommend virtual network adapter better than the other for
>> advantage services?
>>
>> After running perfmon for sometime i have come to the conclusion that
>> Disk
>> queue is not the problem as this never gets above .2 when the system is
>> getting hit and averages around .02
>>
>> I have dedicated 4 cpu's at 2.8 GHz to the machine and 2GB Ram. These
>> resources also seem to be doing fine.
>>
>> Bandwitch on the network also seems to be fine, as all clients have are
>> on a
>> gig switch connected with 3 uplinks to the gig switch where the vm
>> environment stays.
>>
>> Please let me know if you have any ideas that could help.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Jamie
>>
>>
>


Peter Rosario Posted on 2010-05-04 23:30:26.0Z
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Jamie:

It seems to me that you are feeling like your performance problems are
VMware related (hence your subject line and description). Your (possibly
accurate) description has also prejudiced the thinking of people reading
your post to focus on virtualization. Having worked with VMware and
Advantage both locally and on a server, I suspect your trouble is network
related not virtualization related.

You said you tested 1) locally and 2) on a virtual server. I wonder how
your application would perform 3) on a non-virtual server. If it
performs well, then perhaps virtualization *is* the culprit. If it
performs badly, then maybe networking is the problem.

Pete R.