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Installing ASE 15.5 on Windows XP?

7 posts in General Discussion Last posting was on 2010-04-07 00:34:13.0Z
Jean-Pierre Dareys Posted on 2010-04-03 03:37:39.0Z
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Greetings,

I have just downloaded ASE 15.5, Developper Edition from the
Sybase, Inc. Website.

Now, I have at least five servers installed, configured, and
working using ASE 15.0.2, under an administrator account.

I would now like to install ASE 15.5 using the same account,
or even a different one, but I have noticed that all
administrator accounts inherit the same environmental
variables, directories...

How can I create a new account on the XP Machine and make
sure that if I install ASE 15.5, or any other software, I
won´t clobber the paths and variables for ASE 15.0.2 on
other accounts....

I used to be able to do this with UNX at login time, but it
has been a while. thank you for your help.

Regards,

Jean-Pierre

P.S. And happy holidays to all.


Leonid Gvirtz Posted on 2010-04-03 10:35:22.0Z
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Hi Jean-Pierre

The easiest way to perform multiple non-conflicting installation on
Windows is to move all Sybase-related environment variables, relevant
parts for PATH etc. from "System variables" section to "User variables"
section immediately after the software installation. Then, each sybase
user will see only its own environment and there will be no conflicts.
You will also need to run ASE services under relevant users and not
under Local System account. I managed to install tens of ASE servers on
a single Windows server this way (for testing purposes), without any
problem.

Hope it helps
Leonid Gvirtz
http://www.gvirtz-consulting.com

On 4/3/2010 6:37 AM, Jean-Pierre Dareys wrote:
> Greetings,
>
> I have just downloaded ASE 15.5, Developper Edition from the
> Sybase, Inc. Website.
>
> Now, I have at least five servers installed, configured, and
> working using ASE 15.0.2, under an administrator account.
>
> I would now like to install ASE 15.5 using the same account,
> or even a different one, but I have noticed that all
> administrator accounts inherit the same environmental
> variables, directories...
>
> How can I create a new account on the XP Machine and make
> sure that if I install ASE 15.5, or any other software, I
> won´t clobber the paths and variables for ASE 15.0.2 on
> other accounts....
>
> I used to be able to do this with UNX at login time, but it
> has been a while. thank you for your help.
>
> Regards,
>
> Jean-Pierre
>
> P.S. And happy holidays to all.
>


Jean-Pierre Dareys Posted on 2010-04-03 16:29:18.0Z
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Leonid,

Thank you for the response. Please let me paraphrase it to
make sure I understood coorectly.

1. Perform the install and then move all the definitions
under
"system variables" to "user variables"? That would
include
the PATH, DSLISTEN, DSQUERY etc correct?

2. Go tot the services administration utility and change the
user name to the name of the account I am loggin into
instead
of "local system"?

Many thanks for confirming. All my servers are running
correctly
and I hope to keep it that way and add some more without so
I would rather check before I make the change.

Jean-Pierre

> Hi Jean-Pierre
>
> The easiest way to perform multiple non-conflicting
> installation on Windows is to move all Sybase-related
> environment variables, relevant parts for PATH etc. from
> "System variables" section to "User variables" section
> immediately after the software installation. Then, each
> sybase user will see only its own environment and there
> will be no conflicts. You will also need to run ASE
> services under relevant users and not under Local System
> account. I managed to install tens of ASE servers on a
> single Windows server this way (for testing purposes),
> without any problem.
>
> Hope it helps
> Leonid Gvirtz
> http://www.gvirtz-consulting.com
>
> On 4/3/2010 6:37 AM, Jean-Pierre Dareys wrote:
> > Greetings,
> >
> > I have just downloaded ASE 15.5, Developper Edition from
> > the Sybase, Inc. Website.
> >
> > Now, I have at least five servers installed, configured,
> > and working using ASE 15.0.2, under an administrator
> account. >
> > I would now like to install ASE 15.5 using the same
> > account, or even a different one, but I have noticed
> > that all administrator accounts inherit the same
> > environmental variables, directories...
> >
> > How can I create a new account on the XP Machine and
> > make sure that if I install ASE 15.5, or any other
> > software, I won´t clobber the paths and variables for
> > ASE 15.0.2 on other accounts....
> >
> > I used to be able to do this with UNX at login time, but
> > it has been a while. thank you for your help.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Jean-Pierre
> >
> > P.S. And happy holidays to all.
> >
>


Leonid Gvirtz Posted on 2010-04-04 06:07:47.0Z
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Hi Jean-Pierre

1. You should move to "user variables" all SYBASE_* variables, DSLITEN,
DSQUERY, LM_LICENSE_FILE and relevant parts of PATH, LIB, INCLUDE. I
hope I didn't forget anything, I don't have ASE on Windows installation
right now to verify. This way, all Sybase installations on the server
will be independent on each other and each OS user intended for a Sybase
installation will receive right environment variables automatically.
Note that Windows pick "system variables" first and then "user
variables" for the relevant user. Also, note that if you decide to
follow this approach then you should change the environment for all
Sybase user on your server.

2. Your ASE services should run under relevant OS users, so each
dataserver will use the right environment variables. Yes, you change it
via Windows Services utility.

Hope it helps
Leonid Gvirtz
http://www.gvirtz-consulting.com

On 4/3/2010 7:29 PM, Jean-Pierre Dareys wrote:
> Leonid,
>
> Thank you for the response. Please let me paraphrase it to
> make sure I understood coorectly.
>
> 1. Perform the install and then move all the definitions
> under
> "system variables" to "user variables"? That would
> include
> the PATH, DSLISTEN, DSQUERY etc correct?
>
> 2. Go tot the services administration utility and change the
> user name to the name of the account I am loggin into
> instead
> of "local system"?
>
> Many thanks for confirming. All my servers are running
> correctly
> and I hope to keep it that way and add some more without so
> I would rather check before I make the change.
>
> Jean-Pierre
>
>
>
>> Hi Jean-Pierre
>>
>> The easiest way to perform multiple non-conflicting
>> installation on Windows is to move all Sybase-related
>> environment variables, relevant parts for PATH etc. from
>> "System variables" section to "User variables" section
>> immediately after the software installation. Then, each
>> sybase user will see only its own environment and there
>> will be no conflicts. You will also need to run ASE
>> services under relevant users and not under Local System
>> account. I managed to install tens of ASE servers on a
>> single Windows server this way (for testing purposes),
>> without any problem.
>>
>> Hope it helps
>> Leonid Gvirtz
>> http://www.gvirtz-consulting.com
>>
>> On 4/3/2010 6:37 AM, Jean-Pierre Dareys wrote:
>>
>>> Greetings,
>>>
>>> I have just downloaded ASE 15.5, Developper Edition from
>>> the Sybase, Inc. Website.
>>>
>>> Now, I have at least five servers installed, configured,
>>> and working using ASE 15.0.2, under an administrator
>>>
>> account.>
>>
>>> I would now like to install ASE 15.5 using the same
>>> account, or even a different one, but I have noticed
>>> that all administrator accounts inherit the same
>>> environmental variables, directories...
>>>
>>> How can I create a new account on the XP Machine and
>>> make sure that if I install ASE 15.5, or any other
>>> software, I won´t clobber the paths and variables for
>>> ASE 15.0.2 on other accounts....
>>>
>>> I used to be able to do this with UNX at login time, but
>>> it has been a while. thank you for your help.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Jean-Pierre
>>>
>>> P.S. And happy holidays to all.
>>>
>>>
>>


Jean-Pierre Dareys Posted on 2010-04-05 14:45:46.0Z
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Leonid,

Thank you for the response. Actually, after thinking about
your
initial message, and checking a few things on the machine, I
bit the bullet, and just made the changes.

I am happy to report that I have migrated my old test ASE
15.0.2 servers to a different account, and successfully
installed and configured a new test ASE 15.5 Server.

The ASE 15.0.2 and ASE 15.5 installations co-exist
peacefully and
successfully on the same machine, but on different accounts.
Your approach works really, really, really well. Thank you.

I originally thought about configuring VMWARE to create
separate vitual machines with different OSs and ASE releases
for testing purposes.

Eventually, this will be the way to go for me as I want to
start playing with the ASE CE functionality, and that
requires VMWARE.
However, thanks to you I have the functionality I need.

Regards,

Jean-Pierre

P.S. I checked your web site. Very cool. Where in the USA
are
you located?

> Hi Jean-Pierre
>
> 1. You should move to "user variables" all SYBASE_*
> variables, DSLITEN, DSQUERY, LM_LICENSE_FILE and relevant
> parts of PATH, LIB, INCLUDE. I hope I didn't forget
> anything, I don't have ASE on Windows installation right
> now to verify. This way, all Sybase installations on the
> server will be independent on each other and each OS user
> intended for a Sybase installation will receive right
> environment variables automatically. Note that Windows
> pick "system variables" first and then "user variables"
> for the relevant user. Also, note that if you decide to
> follow this approach then you should change the
> environment for all Sybase user on your server.
>
> 2. Your ASE services should run under relevant OS users,
> so each dataserver will use the right environment
> variables. Yes, you change it via Windows Services
> utility.
>
> Hope it helps
> Leonid Gvirtz
> http://www.gvirtz-consulting.com
>
>
> On 4/3/2010 7:29 PM, Jean-Pierre Dareys wrote:
> > Leonid,
> >
> > Thank you for the response. Please let me paraphrase it
> > to make sure I understood coorectly.
> >
> > 1. Perform the install and then move all the definitions
> > under
> > "system variables" to "user variables"? That would
> > include
> > the PATH, DSLISTEN, DSQUERY etc correct?
> >
> > 2. Go tot the services administration utility and change
> > the user name to the name of the account I am loggin
> > into instead
> > of "local system"?
> >
> > Many thanks for confirming. All my servers are running
> > correctly
> > and I hope to keep it that way and add some more without
> > so I would rather check before I make the change.
> >
> > Jean-Pierre
> >
> >
> >
> >> Hi Jean-Pierre
> >>
> >> The easiest way to perform multiple non-conflicting
> >> installation on Windows is to move all Sybase-related
> >> environment variables, relevant parts for PATH etc.
> from >> "System variables" section to "User variables"
> section >> immediately after the software installation.
> Then, each >> sybase user will see only its own
> environment and there >> will be no conflicts. You will
> also need to run ASE >> services under relevant users and
> not under Local System >> account. I managed to install
> tens of ASE servers on a >> single Windows server this
> way (for testing purposes), >> without any problem.
> >>
> >> Hope it helps
> >> Leonid Gvirtz
> >> http://www.gvirtz-consulting.com
> >>
> >> On 4/3/2010 6:37 AM, Jean-Pierre Dareys wrote:
> >>
> >>> Greetings,
> >>>
> >>> I have just downloaded ASE 15.5, Developper Edition
> from >>> the Sybase, Inc. Website.
> >>>
> >>> Now, I have at least five servers installed,
> configured, >>> and working using ASE 15.0.2, under an
> administrator >>>
> >> account.>
> >>
> >>> I would now like to install ASE 15.5 using the same
> >>> account, or even a different one, but I have noticed
> >>> that all administrator accounts inherit the same
> >>> environmental variables, directories...
> >>>
> >>> How can I create a new account on the XP Machine and
> >>> make sure that if I install ASE 15.5, or any other
> >>> software, I won´t clobber the paths and variables
for
> >>> ASE 15.0.2 on other accounts....
> >>>
> >>> I used to be able to do this with UNX at login time,
> but >>> it has been a while. thank you for your help.
> >>>
> >>> Regards,
> >>>
> >>> Jean-Pierre
> >>>
> >>> P.S. And happy holidays to all.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
>


Leonid Gvirtz Posted on 2010-04-05 19:24:55.0Z
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Hi Jean-Pierre

Nice to hear that all your ASEs can now co-exist peacefully.
Actually, I'm not from USA, I'm from Israel.

Leonid Gvirtz

On 4/5/2010 5:45 PM, Jean-Pierre Dareys wrote:
> Leonid,
>
> Thank you for the response. Actually, after thinking about
> your
> initial message, and checking a few things on the machine, I
> bit the bullet, and just made the changes.
>
> I am happy to report that I have migrated my old test ASE
> 15.0.2 servers to a different account, and successfully
> installed and configured a new test ASE 15.5 Server.
>
> The ASE 15.0.2 and ASE 15.5 installations co-exist
> peacefully and
> successfully on the same machine, but on different accounts.
> Your approach works really, really, really well. Thank you.
>
> I originally thought about configuring VMWARE to create
> separate vitual machines with different OSs and ASE releases
> for testing purposes.
>
> Eventually, this will be the way to go for me as I want to
> start playing with the ASE CE functionality, and that
> requires VMWARE.
> However, thanks to you I have the functionality I need.
>
> Regards,
>
> Jean-Pierre
>
> P.S. I checked your web site. Very cool. Where in the USA
> are
> you located?
>
>
>> Hi Jean-Pierre
>>
>> 1. You should move to "user variables" all SYBASE_*
>> variables, DSLITEN, DSQUERY, LM_LICENSE_FILE and relevant
>> parts of PATH, LIB, INCLUDE. I hope I didn't forget
>> anything, I don't have ASE on Windows installation right
>> now to verify. This way, all Sybase installations on the
>> server will be independent on each other and each OS user
>> intended for a Sybase installation will receive right
>> environment variables automatically. Note that Windows
>> pick "system variables" first and then "user variables"
>> for the relevant user. Also, note that if you decide to
>> follow this approach then you should change the
>> environment for all Sybase user on your server.
>>
>> 2. Your ASE services should run under relevant OS users,
>> so each dataserver will use the right environment
>> variables. Yes, you change it via Windows Services
>> utility.
>>
>> Hope it helps
>> Leonid Gvirtz
>> http://www.gvirtz-consulting.com
>>
>>
>> On 4/3/2010 7:29 PM, Jean-Pierre Dareys wrote:
>>
>>> Leonid,
>>>
>>> Thank you for the response. Please let me paraphrase it
>>> to make sure I understood coorectly.
>>>
>>> 1. Perform the install and then move all the definitions
>>> under
>>> "system variables" to "user variables"? That would
>>> include
>>> the PATH, DSLISTEN, DSQUERY etc correct?
>>>
>>> 2. Go tot the services administration utility and change
>>> the user name to the name of the account I am loggin
>>> into instead
>>> of "local system"?
>>>
>>> Many thanks for confirming. All my servers are running
>>> correctly
>>> and I hope to keep it that way and add some more without
>>> so I would rather check before I make the change.
>>>
>>> Jean-Pierre
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi Jean-Pierre
>>>>
>>>> The easiest way to perform multiple non-conflicting
>>>> installation on Windows is to move all Sybase-related
>>>> environment variables, relevant parts for PATH etc.
>>>>
>> from>> "System variables" section to "User variables"
>> section>> immediately after the software installation.
>> Then, each>> sybase user will see only its own
>> environment and there>> will be no conflicts. You will
>> also need to run ASE>> services under relevant users and
>> not under Local System>> account. I managed to install
>> tens of ASE servers on a>> single Windows server this
>> way (for testing purposes),>> without any problem.
>>
>>>> Hope it helps
>>>> Leonid Gvirtz
>>>> http://www.gvirtz-consulting.com
>>>>
>>>> On 4/3/2010 6:37 AM, Jean-Pierre Dareys wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Greetings,
>>>>>
>>>>> I have just downloaded ASE 15.5, Developper Edition
>>>>>
>> from>>> the Sybase, Inc. Website.
>>
>>>>> Now, I have at least five servers installed,
>>>>>
>> configured,>>> and working using ASE 15.0.2, under an
>> administrator>>>
>>
>>>> account.>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> I would now like to install ASE 15.5 using the same
>>>>> account, or even a different one, but I have noticed
>>>>> that all administrator accounts inherit the same
>>>>> environmental variables, directories...
>>>>>
>>>>> How can I create a new account on the XP Machine and
>>>>> make sure that if I install ASE 15.5, or any other
>>>>> software, I won´t clobber the paths and variables
>>>>>
> for
>
>>>>> ASE 15.0.2 on other accounts....
>>>>>
>>>>> I used to be able to do this with UNX at login time,
>>>>>
>> but>>> it has been a while. thank you for your help.
>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Jean-Pierre
>>>>>
>>>>> P.S. And happy holidays to all.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>


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Leonid,

I actually thought that you were from Russia or the Ukraine!
It
doesn´t matter where you are from really, I can tell you
know your stuff and that we have similar backgrounds.

I was fooled by the phone number on the site. It looked like
it
was from the USA, but truth be told, I was more concerned
with the technical content and the interaction than with the
origin.

Anyway, many thanks for the help. Now I have to perform the
procedure on another machine. BTW, the ASE 15.5 installation
is perfect except for the memory management.

Again, it looks that emulating the pre ASE 15 memory
management model, by allocating max memory at startup,
disabling dynmamic memory alocation and handling data cache,
procedure cache and
all buffer pools, is not the same as it was in 15.0.2.

I have configured things the same, but something is amok. I
have not been able to play around with it. Perhaps you will
see a mor e formal question later if I can´t figure it
out.

Last time, I was successful with ASE 15.0.2 but it took a
number of tests. In the end, it works best because you
don´t let the server manage itself on those critical
issues. You crontrol it 100%.

Many thanks for your help.

Jean-Pierre

> Hi Jean-Pierre
>
> Nice to hear that all your ASEs can now co-exist
> peacefully. Actually, I'm not from USA, I'm from Israel.
>
> Leonid Gvirtz
>
> On 4/5/2010 5:45 PM, Jean-Pierre Dareys wrote:
> > Leonid,
> >
> > Thank you for the response. Actually, after thinking
> > about your
> > initial message, and checking a few things on the
> > machine, I bit the bullet, and just made the changes.
> >
> > I am happy to report that I have migrated my old test
> > ASE 15.0.2 servers to a different account, and
> > successfully installed and configured a new test ASE
> 15.5 Server. >
> > The ASE 15.0.2 and ASE 15.5 installations co-exist
> > peacefully and
> > successfully on the same machine, but on different
> > accounts. Your approach works really, really, really
> well. Thank you. >
> > I originally thought about configuring VMWARE to create
> > separate vitual machines with different OSs and ASE
> > releases for testing purposes.
> >
> > Eventually, this will be the way to go for me as I want
> > to start playing with the ASE CE functionality, and that
> > requires VMWARE.
> > However, thanks to you I have the functionality I need.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Jean-Pierre
> >
> > P.S. I checked your web site. Very cool. Where in the
> > USA are
> > you located?
> >
> >
> >> Hi Jean-Pierre
> >>
> >> 1. You should move to "user variables" all SYBASE_*
> >> variables, DSLITEN, DSQUERY, LM_LICENSE_FILE and
> relevant >> parts of PATH, LIB, INCLUDE. I hope I didn't
> forget >> anything, I don't have ASE on Windows
> installation right >> now to verify. This way, all Sybase
> installations on the >> server will be independent on
> each other and each OS user >> intended for a Sybase
> installation will receive right >> environment variables
> automatically. Note that Windows >> pick "system
> variables" first and then "user variables" >> for the
> relevant user. Also, note that if you decide to >> follow
> this approach then you should change the >> environment
> for all Sybase user on your server. >>
> >> 2. Your ASE services should run under relevant OS users
> , >> so each dataserver will use the right environment
> >> variables. Yes, you change it via Windows Services
> >> utility.
> >>
> >> Hope it helps
> >> Leonid Gvirtz
> >> http://www.gvirtz-consulting.com
> >>
> >>
> >> On 4/3/2010 7:29 PM, Jean-Pierre Dareys wrote:
> >>
> >>> Leonid,
> >>>
> >>> Thank you for the response. Please let me paraphrase
> it >>> to make sure I understood coorectly.
> >>>
> >>> 1. Perform the install and then move all the
> definitions >>> under
> >>> "system variables" to "user variables"? That
> would >>> include
> >>> the PATH, DSLISTEN, DSQUERY etc correct?
> >>>
> >>> 2. Go tot the services administration utility and
> change >>> the user name to the name of the account I
> am loggin >>> into instead
> >>> of "local system"?
> >>>
> >>> Many thanks for confirming. All my servers are running
> >>> correctly
> >>> and I hope to keep it that way and add some more
> without >>> so I would rather check before I make the
> change. >>>
> >>> Jean-Pierre
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Hi Jean-Pierre
> >>>>
> >>>> The easiest way to perform multiple non-conflicting
> >>>> installation on Windows is to move all
> Sybase-related >>>> environment variables, relevant parts
> for PATH etc. >>>>
> >> from>> "System variables" section to "User variables"
> >> section>> immediately after the software installation.
> >> Then, each>> sybase user will see only its own
> >> environment and there>> will be no conflicts. You
> will >> also need to run ASE>> services under relevant
> users and >> not under Local System>> account. I managed
> to install >> tens of ASE servers on a>> single Windows
> server this >> way (for testing purposes),>> without any
> problem. >>
> >>>> Hope it helps
> >>>> Leonid Gvirtz
> >>>> http://www.gvirtz-consulting.com
> >>>>
> >>>> On 4/3/2010 6:37 AM, Jean-Pierre Dareys wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> Greetings,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I have just downloaded ASE 15.5, Developper Edition
> >>>>>
> >> from>>> the Sybase, Inc. Website.
> >>
> >>>>> Now, I have at least five servers installed,
> >>>>>
> >> configured,>>> and working using ASE 15.0.2, under an
> >> administrator>>>
> >>
> >>>> account.>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> I would now like to install ASE 15.5 using the same
> >>>>> account, or even a different one, but I have noticed
> >>>>> that all administrator accounts inherit the same
> >>>>> environmental variables, directories...
> >>>>>
> >>>>> How can I create a new account on the XP Machine and
> >>>>> make sure that if I install ASE 15.5, or any other
> >>>>> software, I won´t clobber the paths and variables
> >>>>>
> > for
> >
> >>>>> ASE 15.0.2 on other accounts....
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I used to be able to do this with UNX at login time,
> >>>>>
> >> but>>> it has been a while. thank you for your help.
> >>
> >>>>> Regards,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Jean-Pierre
> >>>>>
> >>>>> P.S. And happy holidays to all.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>
>