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SybAP ?

7 posts in General Discussion Last posting was on 2010-05-13 12:05:57.0Z
Sherlock, Kevin [TeamSybase] Posted on 2010-05-12 20:35:50.0Z
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http://www.marketwatch.com/story/sybase-shares-surge-on-sap-buyout-reports-2010-05-12-155100?siteid=yhoof


confused_sybuser Posted on 2010-05-12 21:05:24.0Z
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Complete role reversal ........The very first time that SAP
(then a fledgling company) approached Sybase (then a close
second to Oracle) for an exclusive platform deal, Sybase
rejected it and SAP went on to develop for all databases
except Sybase giving Oracle a big boost since SAP ran only
on Oracle in the initial years. Sybase went on to partner
closely with Peoplesoft (which Oracle acquired) later when
ERP software sales started picking up in the late 90s. Now
that Oracle is the biggest threat to SAP, not sure what SAP
hopes to achieve by buying Sybase (SAP ERP software still
does not support Sybase as a database back-end) ... maybe a
piece of the financial pie (or what is left of it)


SAP Fan Posted on 2010-05-12 21:52:50.0Z
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> Complete role reversal ........The very first time that
> SAP (then a fledgling company) approached Sybase (then a
> close second to Oracle) for an exclusive platform deal,
> Sybase rejected it and SAP went on to develop for all
> databases except Sybase giving Oracle a big boost since
> SAP ran only on Oracle in the initial years. Sybase went
> on to partner closely with Peoplesoft (which Oracle
> acquired) later when ERP software sales started picking up
> in the late 90s. Now that Oracle is the biggest threat to
> SAP, not sure what SAP hopes to achieve by buying Sybase
> (SAP ERP software still does not support Sybase as a
> database back-end) ... maybe a piece of the financial pie
> (or what is left of it)

FWIW, getting SAP to run on ASE should be relatively trivial
given that it already runs on SQL Server and DB2, both of
which architecturally are very similar (SQL Server in
particular of course). SAP just never had a reason to make
the move.

But this buy isn't about ASE; it's about the mobility and
interoperability software.


confused_sybuser Posted on 2010-05-12 22:25:37.0Z
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> But this buy isn't about ASE; it's about the mobility and
> interoperability software.

If the iAnywhere subsidiary is what they are primarily
after, then wouldn't it make sense for them to just go ahead
and spin the other divisions off and/or stop putting further
effort into developing the other products.
Don't they already own MaxDB leftover from MySQL given that
Oracle acquired Sun (which bought MySQL)?

Unless there is a detailed clarification from Sybase/SAP
regarding their strategic intent w.r.to each of the various
products, there is enough FUD here that competitors can
legitimately prey on.


Sherlock, Kevin [TeamSybase] Posted on 2010-05-12 22:28:34.0Z
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mobility, and probably IQ are the interests. SAP with in memory database
and BO against IQ seem to be what I'm hearing.

<confused_sybuser> wrote in message
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>> But this buy isn't about ASE; it's about the mobility and
>> interoperability software.
>
> If the iAnywhere subsidiary is what they are primarily
> after, then wouldn't it make sense for them to just go ahead
> and spin the other divisions off and/or stop putting further
> effort into developing the other products.
> Don't they already own MaxDB leftover from MySQL given that
> Oracle acquired Sun (which bought MySQL)?
>
> Unless there is a detailed clarification from Sybase/SAP
> regarding their strategic intent w.r.to each of the various
> products, there is enough FUD here that competitors can
> legitimately prey on.


Sherlock, Kevin [TeamSybase] Posted on 2010-05-12 22:36:14.0Z
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Sybase to be a "stand alone" company. Most likely an independent subsidiary
"Sybase an SAP Company'

http://money.cnn.com/news/newsfeeds/articles/prnewswire/NY04135.htm

<confused_sybuser> wrote in message
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>> But this buy isn't about ASE; it's about the mobility and
>> interoperability software.
>
> If the iAnywhere subsidiary is what they are primarily
> after, then wouldn't it make sense for them to just go ahead
> and spin the other divisions off and/or stop putting further
> effort into developing the other products.
> Don't they already own MaxDB leftover from MySQL given that
> Oracle acquired Sun (which bought MySQL)?
>
> Unless there is a detailed clarification from Sybase/SAP
> regarding their strategic intent w.r.to each of the various
> products, there is enough FUD here that competitors can
> legitimately prey on.


SAP Fan Posted on 2010-05-13 12:05:57.0Z
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> > But this buy isn't about ASE; it's about the mobility
> > and interoperability software.
>
> If the iAnywhere subsidiary is what they are primarily
> after, then wouldn't it make sense for them to just go
> ahead and spin the other divisions off and/or stop putting
> further effort into developing the other products.
> Don't they already own MaxDB leftover from MySQL given
> that Oracle acquired Sun (which bought MySQL)?
>
> Unless there is a detailed clarification from Sybase/SAP
> regarding their strategic intent w.r.to each of the
> various products, there is enough FUD here that
> competitors can legitimately prey on.

Who mentioned iAnywhere? I said interoperability and
mobility, which includes 365 and various bits of Sybase
proper. The IMDB technology is a fit too.

Might SAP even go so far as to embed ASE under their
flagship product? They could do this at a reduced price;
remember, they currently get no part of the underlying DBMS
technology sales. Anything they can sell that's easier to
work out of the box that includes their own DBMS is a win
for SAP and a loss for (most likely) Oracle.