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4 posts in General Discussion Last posting was on 2010-12-21 04:12:41.0Z
jobless Posted on 2010-12-19 01:53:09.0Z
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sybase updated its optimizer in 15, which we in Sybase world
thoguth was great achievement. The migration was fun...

Check below site from DB2, it seems to be interesting
concept.
Whats the news from Sybase world after SAP saga!

SYBASE ----> OPTIMIZER (Updated) ----> FUTURE PATH (!)

. ----- SQL-PL (DB2) OPTIMIZER ----
. | |
DB2 ---- |---- FUTURE :)
. | |
. ----- TSQL (skin) OPTIMIZER ----|
. | |
. ----- PL-SQL (skin) OPTIMIZER ----|

http://www-01.ibm.com/software/data/db2/linux-unix-windows/editions-features-sql-sybase.html


Sherlock, Kevin [TeamSybase] Posted on 2010-12-20 15:10:02.0Z
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Those aren't optimizers, they are "skins" as you say. Translators to native
DB2, then optimized. It's meant to make migrations from those applications
to DB2 "easier". Marketing glossy, or the real thing? Give em a try and
let us know about your experiences.

<jobless> wrote in message news:4d0d6585.596a.1681692777@sybase.com...
> sybase updated its optimizer in 15, which we in Sybase world
> thoguth was great achievement. The migration was fun...
>
> Check below site from DB2, it seems to be interesting
> concept.
> Whats the news from Sybase world after SAP saga!
>
> SYBASE ----> OPTIMIZER (Updated) ----> FUTURE PATH (!)
>
> . ----- SQL-PL (DB2) OPTIMIZER ----
> . | |
> DB2 ---- |---- FUTURE :)
> . | |
> . ----- TSQL (skin) OPTIMIZER ----|
> . | |
> . ----- PL-SQL (skin) OPTIMIZER ----|
>
> http://www-01.ibm.com/software/data/db2/linux-unix-windows/editions-features-sql-sybase.html


jobless Posted on 2010-12-21 02:43:43.0Z
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> Those aren't optimizers, they are "skins" as you say.
> Translators to native DB2, then optimized. It's meant
> to make migrations from those applications to DB2
> "easier". Marketing glossy, or the real thing? Give em a
> try and let us know about your experiences.
>
>
> <jobless> wrote in message
> > news:4d0d6585.596a.1681692777@sybase.com... sybase
> > updated its optimizer in 15, which we in Sybase world
> thoguth was great achievement. The migration was fun... >
> > Check below site from DB2, it seems to be interesting
> > concept.
> > Whats the news from Sybase world after SAP saga!
> >
> > SYBASE ----> OPTIMIZER (Updated) ----> FUTURE PATH (!)
> >
> > . ----- SQL-PL (DB2) OPTIMIZER ----
> > . | |
> > DB2 ---- |---- FUTURE
> > :) . | |
> > . ----- TSQL (skin) OPTIMIZER ----|
> > . | |
> > . ----- PL-SQL (skin) OPTIMIZER ----|
> >
> >
>
http://www-01.ibm.com/software/data/db2/linux-unix-windows/editions-features-sql-sybase.html
>
>

its compatibility mode in DB2, the core optimizer is still
DB2 which does understand majority of TSQL and PL-SQL
syntax(aka skin). I know of a huge project which they
successfully migrated (it was an old lotus installation a
VLDB multi region sybase implementation using rep server)

i just started looking into db2, and seems to be enjoying...
after spending years in sybase its hard to score a job in
sybase, i woudnt count 1 month into db2 to land me something

though the 'db2 compatibility' skin mode does seems to be
insteresting concept... at least they have something for the
marketing team to pitch for...


Sherlock, Kevin Posted on 2010-12-21 04:12:41.0Z
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DB2 is a fine product. Actually, there isn't an enterprise DBMS out there
that probably can't do the job 95% of the time. All comes down to what you
are comfortable with, and where you fit the best and can contribute the most
value. Good luck -

<jobless> wrote in message news:4d10145f.2789.1681692777@sybase.com...
>> Those aren't optimizers, they are "skins" as you say.
>> Translators to native DB2, then optimized. It's meant
>> to make migrations from those applications to DB2
>> "easier". Marketing glossy, or the real thing? Give em a
>> try and let us know about your experiences.
>>
>>
>> <jobless> wrote in message
>> > news:4d0d6585.596a.1681692777@sybase.com... sybase
>> > updated its optimizer in 15, which we in Sybase world
>> thoguth was great achievement. The migration was fun... >
>> > Check below site from DB2, it seems to be interesting
>> > concept.
>> > Whats the news from Sybase world after SAP saga!
>> >
>> > SYBASE ----> OPTIMIZER (Updated) ----> FUTURE PATH (!)
>> >
>> > . ----- SQL-PL (DB2) OPTIMIZER ----
>> > . | |
>> > DB2 ---- |---- FUTURE
>> > :) . | |
>> > . ----- TSQL (skin) OPTIMIZER ----|
>> > . | |
>> > . ----- PL-SQL (skin) OPTIMIZER ----|
>> >
>> >
>>
> http://www-01.ibm.com/software/data/db2/linux-unix-windows/editions-features-sql-sybase.html
>>
>>
>
> its compatibility mode in DB2, the core optimizer is still
> DB2 which does understand majority of TSQL and PL-SQL
> syntax(aka skin). I know of a huge project which they
> successfully migrated (it was an old lotus installation a
> VLDB multi region sybase implementation using rep server)
>
> i just started looking into db2, and seems to be enjoying...
> after spending years in sybase its hard to score a job in
> sybase, i woudnt count 1 month into db2 to land me something
>
> though the 'db2 compatibility' skin mode does seems to be
> insteresting concept... at least they have something for the
> marketing team to pitch for...