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Is ASE for Cloud ?

6 posts in General Discussion Last posting was on 2011-10-14 10:50:06.0Z
Van Posted on 2011-10-13 10:43:27.0Z
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Hi there,

Can anyone tell if Sybase ASE 15.x or above is available for Cloud
Computing... Do we have the data centers as well around the globe.

I personally cannot see such information on the Sybase website.... Did
Sybase decided which database platforms will go to Cloud Computing .....

Please share.........

Regards,
Van


Rob V Posted on 2011-10-13 10:53:27.0Z
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On 13-Oct-2011 12:43, Van wrote:
> Hi there,
>
> Can anyone tell if Sybase ASE 15.x or above is available for Cloud
> Computing... Do we have the data centers as well around the globe.
>
> I personally cannot see such information on the Sybase website.... Did
> Sybase decided which database platforms will go to Cloud Computing .....
>
> Please share.........
>
> Regards,
> Van
>
>

For storing data on cloud infrastructure, look at Sybase SQL Anywhere.
In their upcoming version 12.5 (currently in beta), you can deploy
databases into a cloud (public or private, doesn't matter) while
retaining multi-tenancy security etc.
Customers using Sybase ASE typically do so for high-end,
mission-critical systems whereby hardware is dedicated to the database
server. CLoud deployments are typically aiming at a different type of
system, namely those where reliability/availability are less important
so they can benefit from cheaper cloud platforms (remember, the #1
driver for using cloud is cost reduction, which always means you have to
give in on some other aspect -- for critical systems, that tradeoff is
often not acceptable).

--
HTH,

Rob V.
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Certified Sybase Professional DBA for ASE 15.0/12.5/12.0/11.5/11.0
and Replication Server 15.0.1/12.5 // TeamSybase

Author of Sybase books (order online at www.sypron.nl/shop):
"Tips, Tricks& Recipes for Sybase ASE" (ASE 15 edition)
"The Complete Sybase ASE Quick Reference Guide"
"The Complete Sybase Replication Server Quick Reference Guide"

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Van Posted on 2011-10-14 04:08:19.0Z
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Thanks for the infor ,Rob..

But I guess it is more to a business like $700 per month or $.40 per hour
per GB on the CDN's located accross 24 countries accross.

And how about the ASE if it is smart enough while the process changes the
server location.? How did we had a test on that?

Regards, Van

"Rob V" <rob@DO.NOT.SPAM.sypron.nl.REMOVE.THIS.DECOY> wrote in message
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> On 13-Oct-2011 12:43, Van wrote:
>> Hi there,
>>
>> Can anyone tell if Sybase ASE 15.x or above is available for Cloud
>> Computing... Do we have the data centers as well around the globe.
>>
>> I personally cannot see such information on the Sybase website.... Did
>> Sybase decided which database platforms will go to Cloud Computing .....
>>
>> Please share.........
>>
>> Regards,
>> Van
>>
>>
> For storing data on cloud infrastructure, look at Sybase SQL Anywhere. In
> their upcoming version 12.5 (currently in beta), you can deploy databases
> into a cloud (public or private, doesn't matter) while retaining
> multi-tenancy security etc.
> Customers using Sybase ASE typically do so for high-end, mission-critical
> systems whereby hardware is dedicated to the database server. CLoud
> deployments are typically aiming at a different type of system, namely
> those where reliability/availability are less important so they can
> benefit from cheaper cloud platforms (remember, the #1 driver for using
> cloud is cost reduction, which always means you have to give in on some
> other aspect -- for critical systems, that tradeoff is often not
> acceptable).
>
> --
> HTH,
>
> Rob V.
> -----------------------------------------------------------------
> Rob Verschoor
>
> Certified Sybase Professional DBA for ASE 15.0/12.5/12.0/11.5/11.0
> and Replication Server 15.0.1/12.5 // TeamSybase
>
> Author of Sybase books (order online at www.sypron.nl/shop):
> "Tips, Tricks& Recipes for Sybase ASE" (ASE 15 edition)
> "The Complete Sybase ASE Quick Reference Guide"
> "The Complete Sybase Replication Server Quick Reference Guide"
>
> rob@NO.SPAM.sypron.nl | www.sypron.nl | Twitter: @rob_verschoor
> Sypron B.V., The Netherlands | Chamber of Commerce 27138666
> -----------------------------------------------------------------
>


Van Posted on 2011-10-14 04:09:36.0Z
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It's like re-inventing the internet world where people can had their owned
websites free of cost but not everything will be charged on the cloud if you
want to be on the web.

Another 4 decades to go be a part of the SMARTER Planet.

Regards .Van

"Rob V" <rob@DO.NOT.SPAM.sypron.nl.REMOVE.THIS.DECOY> wrote in message
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> On 13-Oct-2011 12:43, Van wrote:
>> Hi there,
>>
>> Can anyone tell if Sybase ASE 15.x or above is available for Cloud
>> Computing... Do we have the data centers as well around the globe.
>>
>> I personally cannot see such information on the Sybase website.... Did
>> Sybase decided which database platforms will go to Cloud Computing .....
>>
>> Please share.........
>>
>> Regards,
>> Van
>>
>>
> For storing data on cloud infrastructure, look at Sybase SQL Anywhere. In
> their upcoming version 12.5 (currently in beta), you can deploy databases
> into a cloud (public or private, doesn't matter) while retaining
> multi-tenancy security etc.
> Customers using Sybase ASE typically do so for high-end, mission-critical
> systems whereby hardware is dedicated to the database server. CLoud
> deployments are typically aiming at a different type of system, namely
> those where reliability/availability are less important so they can
> benefit from cheaper cloud platforms (remember, the #1 driver for using
> cloud is cost reduction, which always means you have to give in on some
> other aspect -- for critical systems, that tradeoff is often not
> acceptable).
>
> --
> HTH,
>
> Rob V.
> -----------------------------------------------------------------
> Rob Verschoor
>
> Certified Sybase Professional DBA for ASE 15.0/12.5/12.0/11.5/11.0
> and Replication Server 15.0.1/12.5 // TeamSybase
>
> Author of Sybase books (order online at www.sypron.nl/shop):
> "Tips, Tricks& Recipes for Sybase ASE" (ASE 15 edition)
> "The Complete Sybase ASE Quick Reference Guide"
> "The Complete Sybase Replication Server Quick Reference Guide"
>
> rob@NO.SPAM.sypron.nl | www.sypron.nl | Twitter: @rob_verschoor
> Sypron B.V., The Netherlands | Chamber of Commerce 27138666
> -----------------------------------------------------------------
>


Van Posted on 2011-10-14 10:32:27.0Z
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Hi Rob ,
Just thinking if you have an idea about this as well : -

But does anyone have an idea , how do we know which cloud vendor provider
which database on there clouds ... Can they provider more than one database
in all over their clouds and they just stick to their own.
For example , when Microsoft as vendor went to cloud , they are providing
Azure which uses SQL Azure as their database. I am not sure if they also
provide PL/SQL Oracle, or TSQL Sybase sql adaptive server languages as well.

Regards , Van

"Rob V" <rob@DO.NOT.SPAM.sypron.nl.REMOVE.THIS.DECOY> wrote in message
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> On 13-Oct-2011 12:43, Van wrote:
>> Hi there,
>>
>> Can anyone tell if Sybase ASE 15.x or above is available for Cloud
>> Computing... Do we have the data centers as well around the globe.
>>
>> I personally cannot see such information on the Sybase website.... Did
>> Sybase decided which database platforms will go to Cloud Computing .....
>>
>> Please share.........
>>
>> Regards,
>> Van
>>
>>
> For storing data on cloud infrastructure, look at Sybase SQL Anywhere. In
> their upcoming version 12.5 (currently in beta), you can deploy databases
> into a cloud (public or private, doesn't matter) while retaining
> multi-tenancy security etc.
> Customers using Sybase ASE typically do so for high-end, mission-critical
> systems whereby hardware is dedicated to the database server. CLoud
> deployments are typically aiming at a different type of system, namely
> those where reliability/availability are less important so they can
> benefit from cheaper cloud platforms (remember, the #1 driver for using
> cloud is cost reduction, which always means you have to give in on some
> other aspect -- for critical systems, that tradeoff is often not
> acceptable).
>
> --
> HTH,
>
> Rob V.
> -----------------------------------------------------------------
> Rob Verschoor
>
> Certified Sybase Professional DBA for ASE 15.0/12.5/12.0/11.5/11.0
> and Replication Server 15.0.1/12.5 // TeamSybase
>
> Author of Sybase books (order online at www.sypron.nl/shop):
> "Tips, Tricks& Recipes for Sybase ASE" (ASE 15 edition)
> "The Complete Sybase ASE Quick Reference Guide"
> "The Complete Sybase Replication Server Quick Reference Guide"
>
> rob@NO.SPAM.sypron.nl | www.sypron.nl | Twitter: @rob_verschoor
> Sypron B.V., The Netherlands | Chamber of Commerce 27138666
> -----------------------------------------------------------------
>


Rob V Posted on 2011-10-14 10:50:06.0Z
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This is certainly an interesting topic, but outside the scope of this
newsgroup. You may want to look for forums dedicated to cloud-related
topics.

R.

On 14-Oct-2011 12:32, Van wrote:
> Hi Rob ,
> Just thinking if you have an idea about this as well : -
>
> But does anyone have an idea , how do we know which cloud vendor provider
> which database on there clouds ... Can they provider more than one database
> in all over their clouds and they just stick to their own.
> For example , when Microsoft as vendor went to cloud , they are providing
> Azure which uses SQL Azure as their database. I am not sure if they also
> provide PL/SQL Oracle, or TSQL Sybase sql adaptive server languages as well.
>
> Regards , Van
>
>
> "Rob V"<rob@DO.NOT.SPAM.sypron.nl.REMOVE.THIS.DECOY> wrote in message
> news:4e96c327$1@forums-1-dub...
>> On 13-Oct-2011 12:43, Van wrote:
>>> Hi there,
>>>
>>> Can anyone tell if Sybase ASE 15.x or above is available for Cloud
>>> Computing... Do we have the data centers as well around the globe.
>>>
>>> I personally cannot see such information on the Sybase website.... Did
>>> Sybase decided which database platforms will go to Cloud Computing .....
>>>
>>> Please share.........
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Van
>>>
>>>
>> For storing data on cloud infrastructure, look at Sybase SQL Anywhere. In
>> their upcoming version 12.5 (currently in beta), you can deploy databases
>> into a cloud (public or private, doesn't matter) while retaining
>> multi-tenancy security etc.
>> Customers using Sybase ASE typically do so for high-end, mission-critical
>> systems whereby hardware is dedicated to the database server. CLoud
>> deployments are typically aiming at a different type of system, namely
>> those where reliability/availability are less important so they can
>> benefit from cheaper cloud platforms (remember, the #1 driver for using
>> cloud is cost reduction, which always means you have to give in on some
>> other aspect -- for critical systems, that tradeoff is often not
>> acceptable).
>>
>> --
>> HTH,
>>
>> Rob V.
>> -----------------------------------------------------------------
>> Rob Verschoor
>>
>> Certified Sybase Professional DBA for ASE 15.0/12.5/12.0/11.5/11.0
>> and Replication Server 15.0.1/12.5 // TeamSybase
>>
>> Author of Sybase books (order online at www.sypron.nl/shop):
>> "Tips, Tricks& Recipes for Sybase ASE" (ASE 15 edition)
>> "The Complete Sybase ASE Quick Reference Guide"
>> "The Complete Sybase Replication Server Quick Reference Guide"
>>
>> rob@NO.SPAM.sypron.nl | www.sypron.nl | Twitter: @rob_verschoor
>> Sypron B.V., The Netherlands | Chamber of Commerce 27138666
>> -----------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>