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Advatange 64bit slow to start

5 posts in Networking Last posting was on 2011-11-15 21:12:48.0Z
Philip L Jackson Posted on 2011-11-07 11:17:33.0Z
From: "Philip L Jackson" <philip.l.jackson@pcdata.coo.uk>
Newsgroups: Advantage.Networking
Subject: Advatange 64bit slow to start
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Hi

Not sure which newsgroup to put this in but we have noticed on a number of
different sites now when we install the 64bit server these seem very slow to
start the service.

I am currently on a Small Business Server 2011 running Xeon X3430 2.4Ghz CPU
with 12.0 Gb of RAM and it took a full 2 minutes before the service started.

Any ideas on why this is?

Regards

Philip L Jackson


Tim Murfitt Posted on 2011-11-08 09:39:39.0Z
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Philip

No ideas but i have also had the same problem. However i have found it to
be both with 32 bit ADS and 64 bit ADS on 64 bit servers. In fact the first
time i installed 64 bit ADS it was taking so long to start i thought there
was a problem so i uninstalled it and then installed the 32 bit version
instead! However this was exactly the same and it was only when i was
tearing my hair out and could not think what else to try that i realised it
had started. I now always leave at least 2 minutes for the service to
start. This is not ideal and is very bad for the nerves!

Regards

Tim Murfitt


Mark Wilkins Posted on 2011-11-08 16:46:44.0Z
From: "Mark Wilkins" <a@b.c>
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Hi,

I remember testing some issue a few months ago on one of our 64-bit servers
and noticed that the 64-bit version of ADS took a bit longer to start than
the 32-bit version on the same machine. At the time I didn't think much
about it and was focusing on whatever I was trying to solve at the moment.
But it was enough different that I did notice it. I'm guessing now that the
64-bit version was taking maybe 10 to 15 seconds to start, while the 32-bit
version started in maybe 3 seconds. So I just now tried it again and,
oddly, I do not observe the same behavior. 32-bit ADS starts in about 3
seconds and 64-bit starts in 4 or 5 seconds. I see, though, on this machine
that someone must have uninstalled and reinstalled ADS since the time I was
doing that testing. Which means the registry (configuration) settings could
well be different from when I was playing around with it. I wonder if
perhaps some particular config setting could be causing this.

Tim - what hardware and OS are you using?

For comparison, the machine I am looking at (the one that showed a bit of
the behavior you are describing) is running Windows Server 2003. It is a
Xeon 5120, 1.86GHz, 8GB RAM. It has 4 cores I believe.

If you wouldn't mind providing the configuration settings (all the values in
HKLM\system\currentcontrolset\services\advantage\configuration), I would
like to see them. If you don't want to post them here, you could send them
to advantage@sybase.com and put "attn: Mark" in the subject line.

Mark Wilkins
Advantage R&D

"Tim Murfitt" <tim@tmurfitt.co.uk> wrote in message
news:4eb8f8af$1@solutions.advantagedatabase.com...
> Philip
>
> No ideas but i have also had the same problem. However i have found it to
> be both with 32 bit ADS and 64 bit ADS on 64 bit servers. In fact the
> first time i installed 64 bit ADS it was taking so long to start i thought
> there was a problem so i uninstalled it and then installed the 32 bit
> version instead! However this was exactly the same and it was only when i
> was tearing my hair out and could not think what else to try that i
> realised it had started. I now always leave at least 2 minutes for the
> service to start. This is not ideal and is very bad for the nerves!
>
> Regards
>
> Tim Murfitt
>
>


Filip Fransen Posted on 2011-11-15 20:03:15.0Z
From: "Filip Fransen" <filip_666@hotmail.com>
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Hi Mark,

I've send you an email with registry keys.

Tx
Filip


"Mark Wilkins" wrote in message
news:4eb95ccc$1@solutions.advantagedatabase.com...

Hi,

I remember testing some issue a few months ago on one of our 64-bit servers
and noticed that the 64-bit version of ADS took a bit longer to start than
the 32-bit version on the same machine. At the time I didn't think much
about it and was focusing on whatever I was trying to solve at the moment.
But it was enough different that I did notice it. I'm guessing now that the
64-bit version was taking maybe 10 to 15 seconds to start, while the 32-bit
version started in maybe 3 seconds. So I just now tried it again and,
oddly, I do not observe the same behavior. 32-bit ADS starts in about 3
seconds and 64-bit starts in 4 or 5 seconds. I see, though, on this machine
that someone must have uninstalled and reinstalled ADS since the time I was
doing that testing. Which means the registry (configuration) settings could
well be different from when I was playing around with it. I wonder if
perhaps some particular config setting could be causing this.

Tim - what hardware and OS are you using?

For comparison, the machine I am looking at (the one that showed a bit of
the behavior you are describing) is running Windows Server 2003. It is a
Xeon 5120, 1.86GHz, 8GB RAM. It has 4 cores I believe.

If you wouldn't mind providing the configuration settings (all the values in
HKLM\system\currentcontrolset\services\advantage\configuration), I would
like to see them. If you don't want to post them here, you could send them
to advantage@sybase.com and put "attn: Mark" in the subject line.

Mark Wilkins
Advantage R&D

"Tim Murfitt" <tim@tmurfitt.co.uk> wrote in message
news:4eb8f8af$1@solutions.advantagedatabase.com...
> Philip
>
> No ideas but i have also had the same problem. However i have found it to
> be both with 32 bit ADS and 64 bit ADS on 64 bit servers. In fact the
> first time i installed 64 bit ADS it was taking so long to start i thought
> there was a problem so i uninstalled it and then installed the 32 bit
> version instead! However this was exactly the same and it was only when i
> was tearing my hair out and could not think what else to try that i
> realised it had started. I now always leave at least 2 minutes for the
> service to start. This is not ideal and is very bad for the nerves!
>
> Regards
>
> Tim Murfitt
>
>


Filip Fransen Posted on 2011-11-15 21:12:48.0Z
From: "Filip Fransen" <filip_666@hotmail.com>
Newsgroups: Advantage.Networking
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last service start took >1 hour before services was saying started.


"Filip Fransen" wrote in message
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Hi Mark,

I've send you an email with registry keys.

Tx
Filip


"Mark Wilkins" wrote in message
news:4eb95ccc$1@solutions.advantagedatabase.com...

Hi,

I remember testing some issue a few months ago on one of our 64-bit servers
and noticed that the 64-bit version of ADS took a bit longer to start than
the 32-bit version on the same machine. At the time I didn't think much
about it and was focusing on whatever I was trying to solve at the moment.
But it was enough different that I did notice it. I'm guessing now that the
64-bit version was taking maybe 10 to 15 seconds to start, while the 32-bit
version started in maybe 3 seconds. So I just now tried it again and,
oddly, I do not observe the same behavior. 32-bit ADS starts in about 3
seconds and 64-bit starts in 4 or 5 seconds. I see, though, on this machine
that someone must have uninstalled and reinstalled ADS since the time I was
doing that testing. Which means the registry (configuration) settings could
well be different from when I was playing around with it. I wonder if
perhaps some particular config setting could be causing this.

Tim - what hardware and OS are you using?

For comparison, the machine I am looking at (the one that showed a bit of
the behavior you are describing) is running Windows Server 2003. It is a
Xeon 5120, 1.86GHz, 8GB RAM. It has 4 cores I believe.

If you wouldn't mind providing the configuration settings (all the values in
HKLM\system\currentcontrolset\services\advantage\configuration), I would
like to see them. If you don't want to post them here, you could send them
to advantage@sybase.com and put "attn: Mark" in the subject line.

Mark Wilkins
Advantage R&D

"Tim Murfitt" <tim@tmurfitt.co.uk> wrote in message
news:4eb8f8af$1@solutions.advantagedatabase.com...
> Philip
>
> No ideas but i have also had the same problem. However i have found it to
> be both with 32 bit ADS and 64 bit ADS on 64 bit servers. In fact the
> first time i installed 64 bit ADS it was taking so long to start i thought
> there was a problem so i uninstalled it and then installed the 32 bit
> version instead! However this was exactly the same and it was only when i
> was tearing my hair out and could not think what else to try that i
> realised it had started. I now always leave at least 2 minutes for the
> service to start. This is not ideal and is very bad for the nerves!
>
> Regards
>
> Tim Murfitt
>
>