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Chip Licenses

4 posts in General Discussion Last posting was on 2012-08-29 23:24:41.0Z
Daryl Posted on 2012-08-29 06:43:13.0Z
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Hi,

We are wanting to upgrade to ASE SBE 15.7 from ASE SBE 15.03 and see that
the licensing has changed from core based to chip based. I think ASE SBE is
restricted to a maximum of two CPUs. I was assuming that chips are actual
CPU processor chips but today someone told me that I would need one chip
license for each socket in the machine regardless of how many chips are
installed in the machine. This seems to be different to how I read it on
the Sybase website. How do I find out for sure whether this is the case or
not?

Thanks


Jason L. Froebe [TeamSybase] Posted on 2012-08-29 15:55:19.0Z
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On 08/29/2012 01:43 AM, Daryl wrote:
> Hi,
>
> We are wanting to upgrade to ASE SBE 15.7 from ASE SBE 15.03 and see that
> the licensing has changed from core based to chip based. I think ASE SBE is
> restricted to a maximum of two CPUs. I was assuming that chips are actual
> CPU processor chips but today someone told me that I would need one chip
> license for each socket in the machine regardless of how many chips are
> installed in the machine. This seems to be different to how I read it on
> the Sybase website. How do I find out for sure whether this is the case or
> not?
>
> Thanks
>
>

Best bet is to check with Sybase Sales (sales@sybase.com)

Jason


Daryl Posted on 2012-08-29 23:03:57.0Z
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Thanks Jason,

It was someone from Sybase Sales that told me that, but it seems to be
totally different to what they have on their website so I was hoping to get
some more info to point them in the right direction.

On the Sybase Website it defines a Chip as "Electronic circuitry containing
one or more Cores, usually on a silicon wafer."

but then in the example it says

Single-chip machine example: To license 1 single chip machine with 2
single-core processor CPU's, 1 CH license must be purchased (1 machine x 1
CHIP).

The example confuses me becaues I can't understand how a single chip machine
can have two processors CPUs.

>
> Best bet is to check with Sybase Sales (sales@sybase.com)
>
> Jason


Rob V Posted on 2012-08-29 23:24:41.0Z
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On 30-Aug-2012 01:03, Daryl wrote:
> Thanks Jason,
>
> It was someone from Sybase Sales that told me that, but it seems to be
> totally different to what they have on their website so I was hoping to get
> some more info to point them in the right direction.
>
> On the Sybase Website it defines a Chip as "Electronic circuitry containing
> one or more Cores, usually on a silicon wafer."
>
> but then in the example it says
>
> Single-chip machine example: To license 1 single chip machine with 2
> single-core processor CPU's, 1 CH license must be purchased (1 machine x 1
> CHIP).
>
> The example confuses me becaues I can't understand how a single chip machine
> can have two processors CPUs.
>
>
>>
>> Best bet is to check with Sybase Sales (sales@sybase.com)
>>
>> Jason

It's about multi-core chips: these days almost any processor chip has
multiple cores on it. When you look on the motherboard though, you see
only one chip (sometimes a also called 'socket', though that's really
the thing the chip fits into).
This is what the terminology you quote is trying to describe.
Terminology can be confusing though: a 'processor' or 'CPU' always was
equivalent to a 'chip' in the times when multi-core didn't exist. Now
that we live in multi-core times, where each core presents itself as if
it is an individual CPU, exactly what is a 'processor' or CPU now?
Unfortunately this varies: sometimes this term is used to refer to an
individual core, sometimes to the chip which holds multiple cores (take
your pick).
The term 'chip' licensing circumvents this and refers to the actual chip
on the motherboard, irrespective of how many cores it has.


HTH,

Rob V.
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