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PowerBuilder - Good bye ?

12 posts in Job Postings Last posting was on 2003-04-25 14:05:48.0Z
Sri Posted on 2003-04-04 20:38:07.0Z
From: "Sri" <simplesri@yahoo.com>
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Hi all,
Just like you guys, I am also a die hard fan of Powerbuilder (Sicne v3) ! While
sticking of PB itself raises some eyebrows among my friends, I always was a
strong candidate to argue its 'greatness'!

However, since last few 'months', I was out of contracts on PB positions and I
am really feeling hard to get a job in PB. A few maintainence and a few
migration projects here and there but nothing 'real' to take as challenge. Hope
many of you might also have been through this.

So, my question is, what good is a technology if it doesn't really 'feed' me ?
Already, I am paying high price for living in PB Only world !
For all the time and effort I invested in PB, my resume on PB(v8, beta of v9)
is now considered as 'Obselete' in market.

I am seriously thinking of saying goodbye to PB(with heavy heart).
Am I wrong ?

-Sri
[Sri]


Paul Horan[TeamSybase] Posted on 2003-04-05 21:15:18.0Z
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While I think it's a never a good idea to place all your "eggs" in one
basket, as it were, in my opinion, PB is not dead. As a consultant, it's
wise to be conversant in any number of tools and technologies. Things go in
cycles, and there's a general slowdown in development projects across the
board, not just with PB projects.

--
Paul Horan[TeamSybase]
VCI Springfield, MA
www.vcisolutions.com

Join the PB9 Book mailing list!
www.pb9book.com

"Sri" <simplesri@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:ORbKaou#CHA.185@forums-2-dub...
> Hi all,
> Just like you guys, I am also a die hard fan of Powerbuilder (Sicne v3) !
While
> sticking of PB itself raises some eyebrows among my friends, I always was
a
> strong candidate to argue its 'greatness'!
>
> However, since last few 'months', I was out of contracts on PB positions
and I
> am really feeling hard to get a job in PB. A few maintainence and a few
> migration projects here and there but nothing 'real' to take as challenge.
Hope
> many of you might also have been through this.
>
> So, my question is, what good is a technology if it doesn't really 'feed'
me ?
> Already, I am paying high price for living in PB Only world !
> For all the time and effort I invested in PB, my resume on PB(v8, beta of
v9)
> is now considered as 'Obselete' in market.
>
> I am seriously thinking of saying goodbye to PB(with heavy heart).
> Am I wrong ?
>
> -Sri
> [Sri]


"Daniel Coppersmith" Posted on 2003-04-06 12:30:51.0Z
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Not to mention the economy isn't too hot right now...

"Paul Horan[TeamSybase]" <paulhATvcisolutionsDOTcom> wrote in message
news:Orhyik7#CHA.313@forums-2-dub...
> While I think it's a never a good idea to place all your "eggs" in one
> basket, as it were, in my opinion, PB is not dead. As a consultant, it's
> wise to be conversant in any number of tools and technologies. Things go
in
> cycles, and there's a general slowdown in development projects across the
> board, not just with PB projects.
>
> --
> Paul Horan[TeamSybase]
> VCI Springfield, MA
> www.vcisolutions.com
>
> Join the PB9 Book mailing list!
> www.pb9book.com
>
> "Sri" <simplesri@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:ORbKaou#CHA.185@forums-2-dub...
> > Hi all,
> > Just like you guys, I am also a die hard fan of Powerbuilder (Sicne v3)
!
> While
> > sticking of PB itself raises some eyebrows among my friends, I always
was
> a
> > strong candidate to argue its 'greatness'!
> >
> > However, since last few 'months', I was out of contracts on PB positions
> and I
> > am really feeling hard to get a job in PB. A few maintainence and a few
> > migration projects here and there but nothing 'real' to take as
challenge.
> Hope
> > many of you might also have been through this.
> >
> > So, my question is, what good is a technology if it doesn't really
'feed'
> me ?
> > Already, I am paying high price for living in PB Only world !
> > For all the time and effort I invested in PB, my resume on PB(v8, beta
of
> v9)
> > is now considered as 'Obselete' in market.
> >
> > I am seriously thinking of saying goodbye to PB(with heavy heart).
> > Am I wrong ?
> >
> > -Sri
> > [Sri]
>
>


Berndt Hamboeck Posted on 2003-04-07 08:53:44.0Z
From: Berndt Hamboeck <bhamboec@gmx.at>
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Agreed, but what really hurts me is, if someone with [TeamSybase]
appended to his name in the NGs is looking for a job.....

I am still also a PB consultant, because you get a hundred java or vb
guys, but only a handfull PB developers (not to mention that I *love*
Sybase products anyway).

On Sun, 6 Apr 2003 07:30:51 -0500, "Daniel Coppersmith" <daniel

at_n0_spam infrontsoftware d0t com> wrote:

>Not to mention the economy isn't too hot right now...
>
>
>"Paul Horan[TeamSybase]" <paulhATvcisolutionsDOTcom> wrote in message
>news:Orhyik7#CHA.313@forums-2-dub...
>> While I think it's a never a good idea to place all your "eggs" in one
>> basket, as it were, in my opinion, PB is not dead. As a consultant, it's
>> wise to be conversant in any number of tools and technologies. Things go
>in
>> cycles, and there's a general slowdown in development projects across the
>> board, not just with PB projects.
>>
>> --
>> Paul Horan[TeamSybase]
>> VCI Springfield, MA
>> www.vcisolutions.com
>>
>> Join the PB9 Book mailing list!
>> www.pb9book.com
>>
>> "Sri" <simplesri@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:ORbKaou#CHA.185@forums-2-dub...
>> > Hi all,
>> > Just like you guys, I am also a die hard fan of Powerbuilder (Sicne v3)
>!
>> While
>> > sticking of PB itself raises some eyebrows among my friends, I always
>was
>> a
>> > strong candidate to argue its 'greatness'!
>> >
>> > However, since last few 'months', I was out of contracts on PB positions
>> and I
>> > am really feeling hard to get a job in PB. A few maintainence and a few
>> > migration projects here and there but nothing 'real' to take as
>challenge.
>> Hope
>> > many of you might also have been through this.
>> >
>> > So, my question is, what good is a technology if it doesn't really
>'feed'
>> me ?
>> > Already, I am paying high price for living in PB Only world !
>> > For all the time and effort I invested in PB, my resume on PB(v8, beta
>of
>> v9)
>> > is now considered as 'Obselete' in market.
>> >
>> > I am seriously thinking of saying goodbye to PB(with heavy heart).
>> > Am I wrong ?
>> >
>> > -Sri
>> > [Sri]
>>
>>
>


andrew Posted on 2003-04-08 01:21:42.0Z
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hi,

i believe kumar is right.i am also working on PB since v3, now out of job since
dec31.
i am also seriouly thinking of moving out of PB.even if i get a job on pb for a
contract of 6 monyhs or so, after 6 months if i still stick to PB, my life will
be more miserable than now.

so i have already started learning some other technology
i also love PB a lot.

andrew


On Mon, 07 Apr 2003 10:53:44 +0200,
in news.job_postings

Berndt Hamboeck <bhamboec@gmx.at> wrote:
>Agreed, but what really hurts me is, if someone with [TeamSybase]
>appended to his name in the NGs is looking for a job.....
>
>I am still also a PB consultant, because you get a hundred java or vb
>guys, but only a handfull PB developers (not to mention that I *love*
>Sybase products anyway).
>
>On Sun, 6 Apr 2003 07:30:51 -0500, "Daniel Coppersmith" <daniel
>at_n0_spam infrontsoftware d0t com> wrote:
>
>>Not to mention the economy isn't too hot right now...
>>
>>
>>"Paul Horan[TeamSybase]" <paulhATvcisolutionsDOTcom> wrote in message
>>news:Orhyik7#CHA.313@forums-2-dub...
>>> While I think it's a never a good idea to place all your "eggs" in one
>>> basket, as it were, in my opinion, PB is not dead. As a consultant, it's
>>> wise to be conversant in any number of tools and technologies. Things go
>>in
>>> cycles, and there's a general slowdown in development projects across the
>>> board, not just with PB projects.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Paul Horan[TeamSybase]
>>> VCI Springfield, MA
>>> www.vcisolutions.com
>>>
>>> Join the PB9 Book mailing list!
>>> www.pb9book.com
>>>
>>> "Sri" <simplesri@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>> news:ORbKaou#CHA.185@forums-2-dub...
>>> > Hi all,
>>> > Just like you guys, I am also a die hard fan of Powerbuilder (Sicne v3)
>>!
>>> While
>>> > sticking of PB itself raises some eyebrows among my friends, I always
>>was
>>> a
>>> > strong candidate to argue its 'greatness'!
>>> >
>>> > However, since last few 'months', I was out of contracts on PB positions
>>> and I
>>> > am really feeling hard to get a job in PB. A few maintainence and a few
>>> > migration projects here and there but nothing 'real' to take as
>>challenge.
>>> Hope
>>> > many of you might also have been through this.
>>> >
>>> > So, my question is, what good is a technology if it doesn't really
>>'feed'
>>> me ?
>>> > Already, I am paying high price for living in PB Only world !
>>> > For all the time and effort I invested in PB, my resume on PB(v8, beta
>>of
>>> v9)
>>> > is now considered as 'Obselete' in market.
>>> >
>>> > I am seriously thinking of saying goodbye to PB(with heavy heart).
>>> > Am I wrong ?
>>> >
>>> > -Sri
>>> > [Sri]
>>>
>>>
>>
>


andrew Posted on 2003-04-08 01:21:04.0Z
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hi,

i believe kumar is right.i am also working on PB since v3, now out of job since
dec31.
i am also seriouly thinking of moving out of PB.even if i get a job on pb for a
contract of 6 monyhs or so, after 6 months if i still stick to PB, my life will
be more miserable than now.

so i have already started learning some other technology
i also love PB a lot.

andrew


On Mon, 07 Apr 2003 10:53:44 +0200,
in news.job_postings

Berndt Hamboeck <bhamboec@gmx.at> wrote:
>Agreed, but what really hurts me is, if someone with [TeamSybase]
>appended to his name in the NGs is looking for a job.....
>
>I am still also a PB consultant, because you get a hundred java or vb
>guys, but only a handfull PB developers (not to mention that I *love*
>Sybase products anyway).
>
>On Sun, 6 Apr 2003 07:30:51 -0500, "Daniel Coppersmith" <daniel
>at_n0_spam infrontsoftware d0t com> wrote:
>
>>Not to mention the economy isn't too hot right now...
>>
>>
>>"Paul Horan[TeamSybase]" <paulhATvcisolutionsDOTcom> wrote in message
>>news:Orhyik7#CHA.313@forums-2-dub...
>>> While I think it's a never a good idea to place all your "eggs" in one
>>> basket, as it were, in my opinion, PB is not dead. As a consultant, it's
>>> wise to be conversant in any number of tools and technologies. Things go
>>in
>>> cycles, and there's a general slowdown in development projects across the
>>> board, not just with PB projects.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Paul Horan[TeamSybase]
>>> VCI Springfield, MA
>>> www.vcisolutions.com
>>>
>>> Join the PB9 Book mailing list!
>>> www.pb9book.com
>>>
>>> "Sri" <simplesri@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>> news:ORbKaou#CHA.185@forums-2-dub...
>>> > Hi all,
>>> > Just like you guys, I am also a die hard fan of Powerbuilder (Sicne v3)
>>!
>>> While
>>> > sticking of PB itself raises some eyebrows among my friends, I always
>>was
>>> a
>>> > strong candidate to argue its 'greatness'!
>>> >
>>> > However, since last few 'months', I was out of contracts on PB positions
>>> and I
>>> > am really feeling hard to get a job in PB. A few maintainence and a few
>>> > migration projects here and there but nothing 'real' to take as
>>challenge.
>>> Hope
>>> > many of you might also have been through this.
>>> >
>>> > So, my question is, what good is a technology if it doesn't really
>>'feed'
>>> me ?
>>> > Already, I am paying high price for living in PB Only world !
>>> > For all the time and effort I invested in PB, my resume on PB(v8, beta
>>of
>>> v9)
>>> > is now considered as 'Obselete' in market.
>>> >
>>> > I am seriously thinking of saying goodbye to PB(with heavy heart).
>>> > Am I wrong ?
>>> >
>>> > -Sri
>>> > [Sri]
>>>
>>>
>>
>


Sri Posted on 2003-04-08 16:28:26.0Z
From: "Sri" <simplesri@yahoo.com>
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While I agree with your point of upgrading skill set, is there something
advisable, especially to PB guys to upgrade skills to ? I mean, what is hot...or
which technolgoies are more closer to PB developer's mind set...or something
like that ?
Any suggestions/Observations are appreciated.


[Sri]


Vasu Posted on 2003-04-09 03:59:54.0Z
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EAServer,DBA (Sybase,SQL 2000,ORACLE),Java...

Regards
Vasu


Olivier Posted on 2003-04-16 15:53:50.0Z
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Become a team leader and forget everything about programming.

On Tue, 08 Apr 2003 09:28:26 -0700,
in news.job_postings

Sri <simplesri@yahoo.com> wrote:
>While I agree with your point of upgrading skill set, is there something
>advisable, especially to PB guys to upgrade skills to ? I mean, what is
hot...or
>which technolgoies are more closer to PB developer's mind set...or something
>like that ?
>Any suggestions/Observations are appreciated.
>
>
>[Sri]

--
Olivier Citeau from Paris, France
posted via pfcguide.com


Pablo Sanchez Posted on 2003-04-08 18:59:53.0Z
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"Sri" <simplesri@yahoo.com> wrote in news:#Vi8ive$CHA.304@forums-2-dub:

> While I agree with your point of upgrading skill set, is there
> something advisable, especially to PB guys to upgrade skills to ? I
> mean, what is hot...or which technolgoies are more closer to PB
> developer's mind set...or something like that ? Any
> suggestions/Observations are appreciated.

What I believe is _very_ hot is anything related to Java. There are a
lot of demands for people with Java skills.
--
Pablo Sanchez, High-Performance Database Engineering
http://www.hpdbe.com


Olivier Posted on 2003-04-16 15:52:04.0Z
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Since you know OO programming, it would be very easy for you to learn C# or
Java.

Java/JSP is a better choice in my mind.

Or become a DBA. Since you work on PB for a long time, you know several DBMS,
and at least one DBMS deeply.
Like you i am an application developper, but dba earn more money than ours.

On Tue, 08 Apr 2003 09:28:26 -0700,
in news.job_postings

Sri <simplesri@yahoo.com> wrote:
>While I agree with your point of upgrading skill set, is there something
>advisable, especially to PB guys to upgrade skills to ? I mean, what is
hot...or
>which technolgoies are more closer to PB developer's mind set...or something
>like that ?
>Any suggestions/Observations are appreciated.
>
>
>[Sri]

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Garmecon Posted on 2003-04-25 14:05:48.0Z
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Sri, I am with you. Heavy heart is exactly right, I have been with it
since 1.5 Beta, and I am probably leaving it since it is pretty much a
dead product. I think Version 9 could be a good product but, as you
infer, people think I am a little quaint and naive when I bring up the
topic of PowerBuilder. There is no knowledge in the IT world at all
that PB can be used for web building.

I am going back to C++ and maybe also J2EE (which I do not especially
care for). I have a current long-term PB maintenance/rewrite position
but I am considered deep legacy.


GF

On Fri, 04 Apr 2003 12:38:07 -0800, "Sri" <simplesri@yahoo.com> wrote:

>Hi all,
>Just like you guys, I am also a die hard fan of Powerbuilder (Sicne v3) ! While
>sticking of PB itself raises some eyebrows among my friends, I always was a
>strong candidate to argue its 'greatness'!
>
>However, since last few 'months', I was out of contracts on PB positions and I
>am really feeling hard to get a job in PB. A few maintainence and a few
>migration projects here and there but nothing 'real' to take as challenge. Hope
>many of you might also have been through this.
>
>So, my question is, what good is a technology if it doesn't really 'feed' me ?
>Already, I am paying high price for living in PB Only world !
>For all the time and effort I invested in PB, my resume on PB(v8, beta of v9)
>is now considered as 'Obselete' in market.
>
>I am seriously thinking of saying goodbye to PB(with heavy heart).
>Am I wrong ?
>
>-Sri
>[Sri]